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Online Royell Storing

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Re: U.S. And International Politics
« Reply #3325 on: July 31, 2025, 08:38:26 PM »
Comrade Storing,

Concerns about "Due Process" are triggered by three things as they relate to an individual: Life, Liberty, and Property

How would Trump's name's not appearing on the Colorado ballot deprive him of any of those things?

I call you "Comrade" because you, "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin, and The Traitorous Orange Bird ("rhymes with "Xxxx") seem to have the same vision for America.

   "Fair treatment through the judicial system..." is due process. The Colorado State Supreme Court arbitrarily removed Trump's name from the Colorado POTUS Ballot. What they did is Politburo worthy. This is what you are defending.
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Online Tom Graves

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« Reply #3326 on: July 31, 2025, 08:58:48 PM »
"Fair treatment through the judicial system..." is due process. The Colorado State Supreme Court arbitrarily removed Trump's name from the Colorado POTUS Ballot. What they did is Politburo worthy. This is what you are defending.

Comrade Storing,

Does The Constitution guarantee the same degree of protection to an individual's life, liberty, and property in a civil case as it does in a criminal case?

Do you think an insurrectionist's "pursuit of happiness" should be protected by The Constitution, too?

Online Royell Storing

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Re: U.S. And International Politics
« Reply #3327 on: July 31, 2025, 09:22:43 PM »
Comrade Storing,

Does The Constitution guarantee the same degree of protection to an individual's life, liberty, and property in a civil case as it does in a criminal case?

Do you think an insurrectionist's "pursuit of happiness" should be protected by The Constitution, too?

  "Fair treatment through the judicial system". Trump received Zero Due Process from the Colorado Supreme Court. Cut and Dried. 

Offline Richard Smith

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« Reply #3328 on: July 31, 2025, 09:37:16 PM »
If the supposed "Deep State" wanted to get JFK in 1963, remove him from power, they didn't need to shoot him in broad daylight in the middle of the street with hundreds of people watching. And then have to cover it up for decades (which is impossible to do anyway). That is sheer idiocy and only the most close minded conspiracists think otherwise.

How to get JFK? They could have used "lawfare", the same type of things some used to try and get Trump. Leak damaging information, falsify evidence, use the security powers to undermine him. This absurd conspiracy that people believe in is ridiculous. It can't be done.

Question: So why didn't these supposed all powerful people in the Deep State try that first? Wouldn't that be what you would do before shooting him in this ridiculous plan you think happened?

The idea that one group of people in the Deep State would kill JFK and then the next group of people - and the next, and the next - would coverup for them is...how can anyone believe this? We have Republicans in power exposing the abuses that were done to get Trump. Which is exactly what would have happened with JFK.

The so-called Deep State is the bureaucracy, the administrative state. It's filled with all sorts of people with different views and interests. The idea that it's a monolithic, single "blob" of people is simply false.

But the conspiracy Left and MAGA conspiracy Right foolishly think they do. Which is why we have the Morleys and the Becks and Stones and the Lunas and the DiEugenios and the Bannons in agreement. Two sets of people who otherwise loathe one another.

Much like the media, there is a very strong leftist or at least establishment anti-Trump bias among the bureaucrats.  Particularly among those who have some position of power.  Trump is an outsider to their perceived cadre of power.  He is a threat to them.  Trump overcame all the obstacles that the political establishment had placed to keep out any outsider.  Money, process, media, and ultimately the justice system.  Trump is probably the only person who could and perhaps ever will break the hold these people have over political power.  This is not a republican vs democrat deal.  It's more the establishment political order trying to maintain power at all costs. 

Online Tom Graves

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« Reply #3329 on: July 31, 2025, 09:54:36 PM »
"Fair treatment through the judicial system". Trump received Zero Due Process from the Colorado Supreme Court. Cut and Dried.

Comrade Storing,

You're wrong, again.


"[T]here were five days of a hearing, ample exhibits and evidence, opportunities to cross examine and more."   

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Online Tom Graves

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« Reply #3330 on: July 31, 2025, 10:06:14 PM »
Much like the media, there is a very strong leftist or at least establishment anti-Trump bias among the bureaucrats. 

Smith,

Why wouldn't the media and "the bureaucrats" (and every decent American for that matter) be biased against a malignant narcissist who hung out (or worse) with Jefferey Epstein, made fun of a handicapped journalist, bragged that he likes to grab women by the you-know-what, started laundering money for the Russian Mafia in 1984, and said he trusted Vladimir Putin more than our own intelligence services?
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Offline Michael Capasse

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« Reply #3331 on: August 01, 2025, 01:17:53 PM »
 :D "I solved 6 wars, I'm averaging a war per month. Including wars that lasted 500 years."
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