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Offline Richard Smith

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« Reply #3094 on: June 05, 2025, 11:23:52 PM »
Smith,

Question: Did Joe Biden voluntarily return all of the documents he had taken?

Answer: Yes, he did.

What about The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with Xxxx)? Did he voluntarily return all of the classified documents he had taken?

Answer: No, he didn't.

In fact, Special Counsel Robert Hur (a Republican!!!), whom you quoted above, said in so many words that Trump had not only refused to return the documents he had taken, but had "obstructed justice" in his attempt to keep them.

LOL!

By "voluntarily" return them, do you mean that Old Joe handed them over after he was caught red handed instead of going to jail?   If you rob a bank, and the police knock on your door, does returning the money mean there wasn't a crime?  Trump was set up.  Someone packed up his papers knowing that they included classified documents.  Months later they mordaciously claim that they have knowledge of them and alert the authorities.  LOL.  So the same deep staters who packed up the classified documents, then later are the ones who bring it to light.   If they knew they were classified when Trump left the WH, why didn't they retrieve them at that time?  The case against Trump was thrown out of court.  It was a fraud like all the others to damage him politically.

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« Reply #3095 on: June 05, 2025, 11:53:35 PM »
By "voluntarily" return them, do you mean that Old Joe handed them over after he was caught red handed instead of going to jail?   If you rob a bank, and the police knock on your door, does returning the money mean there wasn't a crime?  Trump was set up.  Someone packed up his papers knowing that they included classified documents.  Months later they mordaciously claim that they have knowledge of them and alert the authorities.  LOL.  So the same deep staters who packed up the classified documents, then later are the ones who bring it to light.   If they knew they were classified when Trump left the WH, why didn't they retrieve them at that time?  The case against Trump was thrown out of court.  It was a fraud like all the others to damage him politically.

Smith,

Did The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with Xxxx) voluntarily give back all of the classified documents he'd stolen?

Offline Richard Smith

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« Reply #3096 on: June 06, 2025, 04:47:34 PM »
Smith,

Did The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with Xxxx) voluntarily give back all of the classified documents he'd stolen?

False premise.  The documents were not packed by Trump.  The court case against him was thrown out.  Riddle me this comrade, how did the NARA later conclude that classified documents were in his possession if they were packed in boxes at his home?  Did they not know that when they packed the papers but suddenly had ESP months later?

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« Reply #3097 on: June 07, 2025, 10:26:44 AM »
False premise.  The documents were not packed by Trump.  The court case against him was thrown out.  Riddle me this comrade, how did the NARA later conclude that classified documents were in his possession if they were packed in boxes at his home?  Did they not know that when they packed the papers but suddenly had ESP months later?

Smith,

Are you saying NARA was to blame for The Traitorous Orange Bird's (rhymes with Xxxx's) absconding with oodles and gobs of classified documents?

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« Reply #3098 on: June 08, 2025, 02:09:41 PM »
Smith,

Are you saying NARA was to blame for The Traitorous Orange Bird's (rhymes with Xxxx's) absconding with oodles and gobs of classified documents?

Absolutely.  This one is very simple.  NARA packed the documents.  They had no access to them until they claimed much later that they contained classified documents.  That means they knew all along that they were putting classified documents into Trump's possession.  Why didn't they pull them at the start?  Because the plan all along was to put them in the boxes, transport them to Trump's home, and if there was any risk that he would run for president, they would suddenly "discover" them in his possession and charge him with a crime.  A classic frame up.  There is no other way to explain what happened.  Trump, on the other hand, had no apparent need or desire to possess these documents.  Had no clue they were in the boxes.  When it first came to his attention, he fully cooperated.  Then they raided his home with tactical assault teams and made a scene because the plan was to ruin him politically.  After that he refused to cooperate, and the court case was dropped.

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« Reply #3099 on: June 08, 2025, 02:21:33 PM »
Absolutely.  This one is very simple.  NARA packed the documents.  They had no access to them until they claimed much later that they contained classified documents.  That means they knew all along that they were putting classified documents into Trump's possession.  Why didn't they pull them at the start?  Because the plan all along was to put them in the boxes, transport them to Trump's home, and if there was any risk that he would run for president, they would suddenly "discover" them in his possession and charge him with a crime.  A classic frame up.  There is no other way to explain what happened.  Trump, on the other hand, had no apparent need or desire to possess these documents.  Had no clue they were in the boxes.  When it first came to his attention, he fully cooperated.  Then they raided his home with tactical assault teams and made a scene because the plan was to ruin him politically.  After that he refused to cooperate, and the court case was dropped.

Smith,

You're so good at this, you really should be working as one of Putin's professional trolls.

Wait . . . . . . are you already???
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« Reply #3100 on: June 08, 2025, 07:08:20 PM »

 As I recall, VP Pence had Classified Documents too. I seriously doubt that Pence would knowingly have Classified Doc's in his house. The difference here being that Trump as POTUS can Declassify whatever he wants. Slow Joe was VP when he came into possession of those Classified Documents that were spread all over the floor of his garage.