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Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Joe Elliott on April 28, 2026, 06:44:04 AM ---President Trump has played an estimated 261 rounds of golf while President. About 50 times a year.
Why is it necessary to build a Golden Ballroom, that dwarfs the White House, so he can be safe, what 4 times a year? 8 times a year? While attending a ball.
While Trump continues, 50 times a year, going around a golf course?
Protection at a Washington Hotel is a piece of cake compared to protection at a golf course. At a hotel, metal protectors can be set up. There can be several layers of protections set up. The President is not constantly moving out in the open where protection has to be constantly moving with him.
The only reason a gunman did not get off a rifle shot at Trump in the summer of 2024 was because the gunman left his rifle laying against a fence in full view. Without that, the protection was not several layers of protection, but one Secret Service Agent travelling ahead of the President and alertly spotting the rifle. Minimum precautions would have foiled the efforts of a dozen Secret Service agents.
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dupe
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Benjamin Cole on April 28, 2026, 09:13:34 AM ---They are calling Trump a "stochastic terrorist" who incites violence.
Get it? Trump is responsible.
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News flash:
He does.
It's one of the reasons "former" KGB counterintelligence officer Vladimir Putin installed him as our "president" on 20 January 2017.
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Joe Elliott on April 28, 2026, 06:44:04 AM ---President Trump has played an estimated 261 rounds of golf while President. About 50 times a year.
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50 times a year is only once a week. Did you have a problem with Obama playing golf? Or Clinton.
https://thegolfnewsnet.com/ryan_ballengee/2024/04/20/how-many-rounds-president-barack-obama-play-golf-office-103838/
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Why is it necessary to build a Golden Ballroom, that dwarfs the White House, so he can be safe, what 4 times a year? 8 times a year? While attending a ball.
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The ballroom will allow future presidents to host state dinners and other large events in a proper venue. The current ballroom inside the White House is a dump compared with the venues our presidents visit when they are being hosted by other countries. It's all about making impressions on foreign leaders.
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While Trump continues, 50 times a year, going around a golf course?
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Your TDS is obvious. Obama played over 40 times a year and nobody cared. A symptom of TDS is that a person will find fault with anything and everything Trump says or does.
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Protection at a Washington Hotel is a piece of cake compared to protection at a golf course. At a hotel, metal protectors can be set up. There can be several layers of protections set up. The President is not constantly moving out in the open where protection has to be constantly moving with him.
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There have been 2 attempted presidential assassinations at the Washington Hilton. Only one on a golf course even though our presidents go to golf courses a lot more often than they go to the Washington Hilton.
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The only reason a gunman did not get off a rifle shot at Trump in the summer of 2024 was because the gunman left his rifle laying against a fence in full view. Without that, the protection was not several layers of protection, but one Secret Service Agent travelling ahead of the President and alertly spotting the rifle. Minimum precautions would have foiled the efforts of a dozen Secret Service agents.
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Trump was not president at the time and the Secret Service under Biden showed a willful indifference to Trump's safety. Their performance during the Butler assassination was appallingly incompetent. The problem is not presidents playing golf. The problem was not having a Secret Service that took their job seriously enough.
Ever since Oswald shot JFK, it has been a top priority of the Secret Service to guard elevated positions within rifle range of the president. Yet the Secret Service in Butler allowed a gunman within 140 yards of Trump to gain access to an elevated position. The head of the Secret Service lost her job over that, as she should have, but more heads should have rolled.
John Corbett:
One of the things that was illustrated by Saturday night's attempted assassination was the danger of having the President, Veep, and Speaker of the House all in one location. If they were all taken out in the attack, our President would now by 92 year old Chuck Grassley, the President Pro Tempore of the Senate.
The President Pro Tempore of the Senate used to be a significant position and at one time it was next in the line of succession after the Veep. Now it is after the Speaker of the House. It has become largely an honorary position, given to the senior most member of the Senate's majority party. That means it is usually a really, really old white guy. Strom Thurmond held the position when he was 100 years old. Had the Democrats followed tradition, demented Senator Diane Feinstein would have been given that title, although to be fair, it wouldn't have been much of a change from Biden. When Obama, Biden, and Speaker John Boehner got together for a round of golf in 2011, a well placed lightning bolt would have made 87 year old Dan Inouye the POTUS.
Except for the Veep, the presidential line of succession is mandated by legislation, not the Constitution. It can be, and has been changed twice. I don't know why they don't remove the President Pro Tempore from the line of succession. While it is unlikely the line of succession would ever go down that far, Saturday night showed it is not inconceivable.
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Joe Elliott on April 28, 2026, 06:44:04 AM ---President Trump has played an estimated 261 rounds of golf while President. About 50 times a year.
Why is it necessary to build a Golden Ballroom, that dwarfs the White House, so he can be safe, what 4 times a year? 8 times a year? While attending a ball.
While Trump continues, 50 times a year, going around a golf course?
Protection at a Washington Hotel is a piece of cake compared to protection at a golf course. At a hotel, metal protectors can be set up. There can be several layers of protections set up. The President is not constantly moving out in the open where protection has to be constantly moving with him.
The only reason a gunman did not get off a rifle shot at Trump in the summer of 2024 was because the gunman left his rifle laying against a fence in full view. Without that, the protection was not several layers of protection, but one Secret Service Agent travelling ahead of the President and alertly spotting the rifle. Minimum precautions would have foiled the efforts of a dozen Secret Service agents.
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It is NOT Costing the US Taxpayers 1 dime to build the ballroom. The Ballroom reaction we see above and elsewhere is simply TDS. And this includes those Hack Judges that continually display that they also have TDS. There is No rational reason to oppose the construction of this ballroom. None.
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