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Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on April 27, 2026, 12:56:07 PM ---I couldn't find a story to confirm Al Kaline's deferred compensation but I did find this one that said he turned down a raise to become Detroit's first $100,000 a year player because he didn't think he had a good enough season to earn it.
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-collectibles/others/1971-al-kaline-signed-detroit-tigers-player-s-contract-and-copy-of-replacement-contract-requesting-a-lower-salary-from-the-al-ka/a/50049-58297.s
Mickey Lolich will always have a special place in the hearts of longtime Tigers fans for his heroic performance in the 1968 World Series when he stole the thunder from Denny McLain and Bob Gibson. He pitched his third complete game victory in game 7 on just two days rest, outdueling Bog Gibson. Lolich was a workhorse in the early 1970s, pitching over 300 innings in four consecutive seasons topped by an astounding 376 innings in 1971, the most by any pitcher since 1917. Wilbur Wood, a knuckleballer, eclipsed him by 2/3 of an inning the following year. Nobody has come close since. Today they think its a big deal if a pitcher throws 200 innings in a year. They pitch every fifth day and they call it a quality start if they pitch 6 innings and give up 3 runs or less. Lolich took the ball every fourth day and more often than not threw a complete game, 29 of them in 1971. Sadly, Mickey passed away this past February.
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Lolich was a lot like Curt Simmons. Simmons never was a 20 game winner, but he was a 1950's workhorse and a big part of the 1950 Phillies "Whiz Kids" team. Simmons was still pitching in 1964 and started 2 World Series games for that championship Cardinal/Gibson team that you guys took down in "68".
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on April 27, 2026, 04:14:21 PM ---If you aren't in advanced stages of TDS, or at least pretending you are, you are not welcome in the Democrat Party.
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When did you get so twisted?
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on April 27, 2026, 08:01:27 PM ---When did you get so twisted?
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It's the modern Democrat Party that has gotten so out of touch that normal appears to be twisted to them. I wouldn't expect anyone with stage 4 TDS to understand that.
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on April 27, 2026, 06:46:06 PM --- Lolich was a lot like Curt Simmons. Simmons never was a 20 game winner, but he was a 1950's workhorse and a big part of the 1950 Phillies "Whiz Kids" team. Simmons was still pitching in 1964 and started 2 World Series games for that championship Cardinal/Gibson team that you guys took down in "68".
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I remember Simmons well and without looking it up I believe he ended up with the Cubs at one time.
Lolich did have a 25 win season in 1971 and followed it up with 22 in 1972. He had several more seasons in the high teens even though he served in the National Guard and did two weeks each year away from the team for much of the 1960s. If Lolich posted the numbers today that he did in the 1960s and 1970s, he would be a borderline Hall of Famer but because he pitched in an era when starting pitchers were expected to pitch a lot more than they do now, he doesn't get the credit for it. 217 career wins would certainly get you considered for Cooperstown these days. In 1971 Lolich pitched 29 complete games. By comparison, there were only 28 pitched in the entire American League last year and only three pitchers threw as many as 2.
I just read a book about the 1968 Tigers and learned a story I had never heard before. As his playing days were winding down, Lolich was looking ahead for ways to earn a living. A Tiger fan asked him if he wanted to go partners in a pizza chain he had started. After considering it, Lolich declined and decided to open his own donut shop in the Detroit area. That donut shop did well and was his main source of income for decades to come. The pizza chain did pretty well too. It was started by Mike Ilitch and was the Little Caesars pizza chain. Mr. I as he was called ended up buying the Tigers and the Detroit Red Wings as well. The Red Wings won a Stanley Cup for him but the Tigers lost both World Series they got into under Mr. I.
Joe Elliott:
The Democratic Party was not stupid enough to attack Iran, causing the Strait of Hormuz to be closed off. 20 % of the world's fuel goes through that strait. Tankers, filled with fuel are absurdly vulnerable. The pre-February 27 has been refined and has mostly gotten pumped into cars. The gasoline prices are about to go up a lot more.
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