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Jack Nessan:
--- Quote from: Steve M. Galbraith on September 13, 2025, 06:21:52 PM ---The race riots of 1968 following the assassination of Dr. King:
"Following the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr., a leading African-American civil rights activist, on April 4, 1968, Washington, D.C., experienced a four-day period of violent civil unrest and rioting. Part of the broader riots that affected at least 110 U.S. cities, those in Washington, D.C.—along with those in Chicago and in Baltimore—were among those with the greatest numbers of participants. President Lyndon B. Johnson called in the National Guard to the city on April 5, 1968, to assist the police department in quelling the unrest. Ultimately, 13 people were killed, with approximately 1,000 people injured and over 6,100 arrested."
There were violent riots and protests in over 100 US cities. Washington was shutdown for four days. LBJ had to call the National Guard out to restore order.
If you think we're in a situation worse than that then well you need to turn off the computer.
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A few years ago, I was sent a little film clip entitled the “Good Old Days” about the Sixties from a good friend as kind of a joke. They weren’t the good old days. I was surprised how bad they were. A lot of it you tend to forget but they seemed way worse than today. I do think we tend to forget the bad times for no other reason than who wants to remember. Different political problems but just as bad if not worse. The 30's depression for our grandparents had to be far worse, no need to revisit that.
Lance Payette:
--- Quote from: Jack Nessan on September 13, 2025, 07:45:17 PM ---A few years ago, I was sent a little film clip entitled the “Good Old Days” about the Sixties from a good friend as kind of a joke. They weren’t the good old days. I was surprised how bad they were. A lot of it you tend to forget but they seemed way worse than today. I do think we tend to forget the bad times for no other reason than who wants to remember. Different political problems but just as bad if not worse. The 30's depression for our grandparents had to be far worse, no need to revisit that.
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We got started down the path with the term "worse" and stayed with that, but I really don't think "worse" is the right term. With all the turmoil of the sixties and seventies, I never felt America itself was at risk. I never felt I was seeing or participating in a war of culture and ideology that had the potential to turn America into something the Founding Fathers never would have recognized and would have abhorred. "Existential threat" is an overused term these days, but it comes closer to capturing what I think the difference is. Nothing in the sixties was an existential threat to the America we had always known, but today (I believe) we are in a genuine war of culture and ideology that is existentially threatening (which some people, of course, think is a good thing). There is a reason Trump's slogan "Make America Great Again" resonates with so many people.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Lance Payette on September 13, 2025, 08:05:28 PM ---There is a reason Trump's slogan "Make America Great Again" resonates with so many people.
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Dear Lance,
Because the "Godless Snowflake Libtard Socialist-Communist Globalist" Dems dragged it down so far?
-- Tom
Lance Payette:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on September 13, 2025, 08:25:22 PM ---Dear Lance,
Because the "Godless Snowflake Libtard Socialist-Communist Globalist" Dems dragged it down so far?
-- Tom
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I tend to see the existential threat as coming mostly from JFKA conspiracy theorists. :D
Surely the primary villain would have to be the educational system. There has always been some "democratic socialist" ideology within America, and that's probably a good thing since it does temper the excesses of unbridled capitalism, but something changed in the 1980's or early 90's. Most of my Trump-hating friends have precisely the same view of Reagan, so perhaps it started back then with Reagan being the catalyst. I'm no great student of the phenomenon - I merely know what I've lived through and observed. It does bear an uncanny resemblance to the "Long March through the institutions" of Marxist ideology (not to mention Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals"), but exactly how it occurred and how it was allowed to happen I have no idea since I was too busy working on my golf swing. My point about "Make America Great Again" was simply that many people, including me, had a strong sense that "This lunacy has gone too far, is starting to look like a genuine existential threat, and we need somebody strong enough to turn the ship around as quickly as possible." I don't agree with everything The Donald has done, but by God he is shaking things up - and that needed to be done, IMO.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Lance Payette on September 13, 2025, 09:00:25 PM ---I don't agree with everything The Donald has done, but by God he is shaking things up - and that needed to be done, IMO.
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But evidently you do agree most of the things he's done.
Pity that.
I'm afraid "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin cherishes both of you.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R5O4eJlu5g
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