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Offline Tim Nickerson

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« Reply #3514 on: September 11, 2025, 01:29:20 AM »
Just curious:

Do you think so-called "sporting rifles" should be legal to own?

Do you think background checks for gun purchases is a good idea?

Did Charlie Kirk?

What does that have to do with the assassination of Charlie Kirk?

Online Tom Graves

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« Reply #3515 on: September 11, 2025, 04:04:21 AM »
What does that have to do with the assassination of Charlie Kirk?

Dear Tim,

You sound triggered.

Pardon the pun.

-- Tom
« Last Edit: September 11, 2025, 04:23:42 AM by Tom Graves »

Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #3516 on: September 11, 2025, 12:50:39 PM »
What does that have to do with the assassination of Charlie Kirk?

Of course, Tom is suggesting that Kirk is responsible for his own murder.  It is the natural progression of the unhinged hate fueled rage against Trump.  When you start claiming someone is Hitler or a Nazi, then anything is fair game to them.  The ends justify any means.  Kirk was a young father who was peacefully exercising his First Amendment rights.  That can no longer be tolerated by some on the left.  They have been radicalized by propaganda to a frightening extent.  Kirk was the enemy to them.  A threat to democracy because he had opinions contrary to their own.  Fortunately, the nuts who espouse this kind of reckless rhetoric are few in number even if they remain vocal.

Online Royell Storing

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« Reply #3517 on: September 11, 2025, 04:36:33 PM »
Of course, Tom is suggesting that Kirk is responsible for his own murder.  It is the natural progression of the unhinged hate fueled rage against Trump.  When you start claiming someone is Hitler or a Nazi, then anything is fair game to them.  The ends justify any means.  Kirk was a young father who was peacefully exercising his First Amendment rights.  That can no longer be tolerated by some on the left.  They have been radicalized by propaganda to a frightening extent.  Kirk was the enemy to them.  A threat to democracy because he had opinions contrary to their own.  Fortunately, the nuts who espouse this kind of reckless rhetoric are few in number even if they remain vocal.

   This is what you get when people like Mika accuse ICE of "disappearing" people. Like a lawyer attempting to influence the decision of a jury, these "hosts" specialize in rhetoric. They know exactly what they are saying and the reaction that they are attempting to trigger.

Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #3518 on: September 11, 2025, 05:06:45 PM »
   This is what you get when people like Mika accuse ICE of "disappearing" people. Like a lawyer attempting to influence the decision of a jury, these "hosts" specialize in rhetoric. They know exactly what they are saying and the reaction that they are attempting to trigger.

Yes, it is pathetic to see these same folks feign shock and disgust after a violent event when they have fueled this action with years of relentless demonization.  As though they had nothing to do with the situation.  CNN is reporting that the rifle and ammo had various "cultural phrases" written on it.  Yes, I bet it did, but we may never learn what given the past investigations into the Trump assassins. 

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« Reply #3519 on: September 11, 2025, 06:04:10 PM »

  It seems the investigators have had the rifle and Images of a "person of interest" in the stairwell for a while. We are well behind the curve here. That we are now seeing images of this "person of interest" is indicative that the investigators have reached a dead end in ID'ing this guy. They probably figure if this "person of interest" does not now step forward and say, "that's me, but I had nothing to do with the shooting", that these are images of the shooter. 

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« Reply #3520 on: September 12, 2025, 01:46:55 AM »
I don’t see how the Kirk assassin shooter escaped carrying this long “Mauser” 30.06 bolt action rifle with large scope on it, from where they think he may been located on the roof, to trek across the roof, jump off to the ground and go on a long trek to where this “Mauser” rifle was found in some woods, and nobody saw him carrying the rifle and no surveillance cameras caught him carrying the rifle either.

There’s one phone video person seems to have located somebody on the roof moving similar to how Crooks was seen going across roof,  and once again, no security and the person recording seems not to think to inform a police officer or security.

Then there is some weird hand signaling going on by 2 guys standing to the side of Kirk which coincidentally stop just seconds before Kirk gets hit.

Then there are a lot of social media posts on Sept 9 , predicting or suggesting Kirk would be shot dead on the 10th.

The media guy who is obviously an opposition guy asking Kirk the ? About how many trans shooters there were and then the follow up ? and Kirk responded about “gangs” just before he is shot is suspiciously coincidental as well.

Was this a pre planned professional assassination or was it just one lone nut who read the social media posts on the 9th and deciding his own to act?