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Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on September 05, 2025, 02:48:44 AM ---That would be now that you're aboard?
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No, but I am thinking about driving my car to Arkansas to visit my relatives in Parkin, Harrison, and Heber Springs. Maybe I'll drop by and visit you while I'm there!
Richard Smith:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on September 05, 2025, 02:03:12 AM ---Either that, or, more likely, he knows there's oodles and gobs of footage showing him banging the heck out of 14-year-olds.
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And the corrupt Biden DOJ sat on that? The same DOJ that conjured up every dirty trick to derail his campaign. LOL.
Lance Payette:
Just my morning musing, but I am struck by how cult-like this has all become. Discussions of actual issues ("Is this a good or bad idea?") seem almost nonexistent. It's all either "Messiah Trump wants it, and therefore we love it" or "Antichrist Trump wants it, and therefore we hate it." It's quite bizarre, isn't it? As my Trump-loathing best friend said long ago, the GOP could have elected someone with essentially identical ideas and policies who would not have instantly divided the country into two warring cults. (One reason many Democrats are part of a Trump-loathing cult, of course, is that this is the best they can do at the moment; they have no Trump-alternative Messiah of their own.)
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Lance Payette on September 05, 2025, 06:39:03 PM ---Just my morning musing, but I am struck by how cult-like this has all become. Discussions of actual issues ("Is this a good or bad idea?") seem almost nonexistent. It's all either "Messiah Trump wants it, and therefore we love it" or "Antichrist Trump wants it, and therefore we hate it." It's quite bizarre, isn't it? As my Trump-loathing best friend said long ago, the GOP could have elected someone with essentially identical ideas and policies who would not have instantly divided the country into two warring cults. (One reason many Democrats are part of a Trump-loathing cult, of course, is that this is the best they can do at the moment; they have no Trump-alternative Messiah of their own.)
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To claim that the, "....GOP could have elected someone with essentially identical ideas and policies........", only displays full blown political naivete. The GOP all by itself is Not capable of electing a POTUS. Trump got a ton of Dem votes and that included the Black Male Voters that told Obama to go fly a kite when he slummed it and dropped into into a couple of Black Barber Shops. They showed him the door and voted Republican. It is now a New Dem Party and a smaller Dem Party too. Voters are currently leaving the Dem Party by the Millions. Just like the general population of Calif & New York. If you notice, Florida now has more electoral votes than NY. A state's total electoral votes are based on their population. This is why Calif currently wants to redistrict and ensure more Dem Reps in congress. With ICE now arresting/removing Illegal Aliens from Calif, that state's population is currently in even further decline. This will soon be reflected in their declining number of votes in the Electoral College. Exactly as we saw in NY.
Richard Smith:
--- Quote from: Lance Payette on September 05, 2025, 06:39:03 PM ---Just my morning musing, but I am struck by how cult-like this has all become. Discussions of actual issues ("Is this a good or bad idea?") seem almost nonexistent. It's all either "Messiah Trump wants it, and therefore we love it" or "Antichrist Trump wants it, and therefore we hate it." It's quite bizarre, isn't it? As my Trump-loathing best friend said long ago, the GOP could have elected someone with essentially identical ideas and policies who would not have instantly divided the country into two warring cults. (One reason many Democrats are part of a Trump-loathing cult, of course, is that this is the best they can do at the moment; they have no Trump-alternative Messiah of their own.)
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I'm not sure why there is a need to characterize Trump supporters as a cult. They are certainly more diverse in their political opinions than Dems who are like bees in a hive always voting the party line. In my own case, I can only say that I agree with almost all of Trump's policies. Closing the border, ending wars, fair trade deals, looking into why we spend the most money on health care and education and get the worst results, making cities safe from crime. Those are important and obvious concerns. That is why I support him. The establishment politicians on both sides have created and ignored these problems for decades. Trump doesn't have all the solutions but at least he has identified the correct problems. There is nothing fanatical about that. Every politician has supporters. The media has attempted to brainwash the public with something that borders on a psych-operation into believing that there is something different and unhealthy about those who support Trump. And they have done an effective job. Which is why so many folks have become completely unhinged on the topic.
Trump resonates with many people because he applies common sense to most issues. He is a flawed person in many respects, but that is less important than the results. Many Trump haters are obsessed with him rather than his policies. There simply is and has never been any individual in American politics who could break the stranglehold that the establishment has put on power over the last 100 years. Trump did that which is why the establishment has pulled all the levers of power to stop him. Nothing worked. We would have had eight long years of Hillary and/or a Kamala administration but for Trump. I honestly don't think the country could have recovered from either of those two. If nothing else, we owe him a debt of gratitude for that.
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