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Offline Joe Elliott

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« Reply #2724 on: March 30, 2025, 05:02:04 PM »
If the Oligarchs get firm control of the government, the great bulk of the illegal immigrants will be allowed to stay in the country. This will be done because they benefits from the immigrant labor helps their profits.

There will be show deportations. Flying a mere 300 immigrants in chains to El Salvador. Not flying 300 per day. Just a one time flight to El Salvador.

And in the interest of being honest, I should state that I am not in favor of mass deportations of the immigrant because that would really hurt our economy. I am just pointing out that IF mass deportations would be a positive good, you will never get that from the billionaire controlled Trump administration. You need to go with someone who is not controlled by the billionaires, who is not a billionaire, who has NEVER received money from billionaires and who will not give in by accepting a million dollars a day bribe as Trump does now.

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« Reply #2725 on: March 30, 2025, 05:04:20 PM »

Online Royell Storing

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« Reply #2726 on: March 30, 2025, 05:18:15 PM »
  Some of us have been around long enough to have HAD the measles. Back then you didn't want young infants or the extremely elderly to become infected, but generally, if you lived in a family and went to public school, people, (predominately kids), coming down with measles and/or chicken pox was very common. Anybody over 50 has lived through this/knows this. I'm not sure if the media attention measles is currently getting is due to people refusing to follow orders regarding vaccinations and/or a covert slap at home schooling and religious sects. Another public "shunning" in order to gain compliance.   

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« Reply #2727 on: March 30, 2025, 05:43:44 PM »
  Some of us have been around long enough to have HAD the measles. Back then you didn't want young infants or the extremely elderly to become infected, but generally, if you lived in a family and went to public school, people, (predominately kids), coming down with measles and/or chicken pox was very common. Anybody over 50 has lived through this/knows this. I'm not sure if the media attention measles is currently getting is due to people refusing to follow orders regarding vaccinations and/or a covert slap at home schooling and religious sects. Another public "shunning" in order to gain compliance.   

I was born in 1957.
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« Reply #2728 on: March 30, 2025, 05:58:50 PM »
If the Oligarchs get firm control of the government, the great bulk of the illegal immigrants will be allowed to stay in the country. This will be done because they benefits from the immigrant labor helps their profits.

There will be show deportations. Flying a mere 300 immigrants in chains to El Salvador. Not flying 300 per day. Just a one time flight to El Salvador.

And in the interest of being honest, I should state that I am not in favor of mass deportations of the immigrant because that would really hurt our economy. I am just pointing out that IF mass deportations would be a positive good, you will never get that from the billionaire controlled Trump administration. You need to go with someone who is not controlled by the billionaires, who is not a billionaire, who has NEVER received money from billionaires and who will not give in by accepting a million dollars a day bribe as Trump does now.

   Whether you know it or not, you have been completely swallowed up whole by Fake News. How about defining the terms you are throwing around? Specifically, what is "mass deportation"? WHO does this apply to? How many people does it take to reach this "mass" level?  2? 22? 200? more?  You are speaking in a gobbledygook manner. This is what we get 24/7 from Fake News and You are now parroting it. Is this what YOU want? And your Trump stuff makes absolutely no sense. The only thing slowing Trump down from getting ILLEGALS ALIENS out of this country are judges' injunctions. A Fed District Court Judge does Not have the authority to ORDER DOJ Planes that are already in flight to turn around. There are roughly 650 judges at this level. So at any point in time ANY/ALL of these 650 judges could Order the turning around of DOJ airplanes already in flight?

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« Reply #2729 on: March 30, 2025, 07:03:42 PM »
   Whether you know it or not, you have been completely swallowed up whole by Fake News. How about defining the terms you are throwing around? Specifically, what is "mass deportation"? WHO does this apply to? How many people does it take to reach this "mass" level?  2? 22? 200? more?  You are speaking in a gobbledygook manner. This is what we get 24/7 from Fake News and You are now parroting it. Is this what YOU want? And your Trump stuff makes absolutely no sense. The only thing slowing Trump down from getting ILLEGALS ALIENS out of this country are judges' injunctions. A Fed District Court Judge does Not have the authority to ORDER DOJ Planes that are already in flight to turn around. There are roughly 650 judges at this level. So at any point in time ANY/ALL of these 650 judges could Order the turning around of DOJ airplanes already in flight?

Specifically, what is "mass deportation"? WHO does this apply to? How many people does it take to reach this "mass" level?


By "mass deportations" I mean enough deportations to deport at least 90 % the illegal immigrants in 4 years.

There are an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the U. S. right now.
If Trump was to deport 10,000 illegal immigrants per week, after 200 weeks, by the end of his administration, he would have deported 2,000,000.
If Trump was to deport 50,000 illegal immigrants per week, in 4 years he would have deported 10,000,000

And this all assumes that zero illegal immigrants are entering the country per week right now.

How many is Trump deporting? 5,000 per week. Not as many as Joe Biden was.

At this rate, all the illegal immigrants will be out of the county in 44 years.

So what is the problem?

Why isn't Trump explaining what is going wrong and what he intends to do about this?

Is it possible the Oligarchs do not want to lose their profits and have instructed Trump to just do show deportations, like flying 300 to El Salvador in chains? In order to make good on all the contributions they have made to him? To make up for the 1,000,000 dollars a day the billionaires are giving him by "investing" in Trump's bitcoin? And that, in any case, Trump is too busy:

* taking apart Medicaid
* taking apart Medicare
* taking apart Social Security
* gearing up for big tax cuts for the billionaires
* gearing up for big deficit spending because even the big cuts government services won't cover the big tax cuts for the billionaires that they want

From what I see, the promised mass deportations are never going to happen under Trump. When is MAGA going to start complaining about his?