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Online Royell Storing

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« Reply #2170 on: February 13, 2025, 05:31:34 PM »

  Zelenski is looking for a way out of that war. Trump is chiding him by mentioning Zelenski needing to get re-elected. Zelenski does Not have a seat at the adult table. This is strictly between Trump and Putin. 

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« Reply #2171 on: February 13, 2025, 06:01:17 PM »
  Zelenski is looking for a way out of that war. Trump is chiding him by mentioning Zelenski needing to get re-elected. Zelenski does Not have a seat at the adult table. This is strictly between Trump and Putin.

Correct.  Again, I think the Russians are the aggressors, but the question remains what is to be done.  Fight another endless war funded indefinitely by the US taxpayers (who already have sent hundreds of billions in equipment and supplies) (i.e. the Biden approach) or find some way to negotiate an end to the killing that may not right every wrong but provides a path for peace (i.e. Trump)?  The idea that an agreement will embolden Russia to invade other countries is laughable.  By some accounts Russia has sustained a million casualties just to overrun some minor regions of Ukraine.  They are a paper tiger.  Only the US military contractors who benefit from endless war are spreading that nonsense. 

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« Reply #2172 on: February 13, 2025, 06:35:30 PM »
Correct.  Again, I think the Russians are the aggressors, but the question remains what is to be done.  Fight another endless war funded indefinitely by the US taxpayers (who already have sent hundreds of billions in equipment and supplies) (i.e. the Biden approach) or find some way to negotiate an end to the killing that may not right every wrong but provides a path for peace (i.e. Trump)?  The idea that an agreement will embolden Russia to invade other countries is laughable.  By some accounts Russia has sustained a million casualties just to overrun some minor regions of Ukraine.  They are a paper tiger.  Only the US military contractors who benefit from endless war are spreading that nonsense.

   "10% for the Big Guy", applies to every dollar the U.S. spent during the reign of The Biden Crime Family. This is what Trump is referencing when mentions "kick backs". Everyone that has built anything inside NY knows about the "kick backs". 

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« Reply #2173 on: February 13, 2025, 07:22:43 PM »
Putin, Trump, or Zelensky.   Which one suspended elections in his country and effectively made himself a dictator?  The gravy train of endless US taxpayer money is coming to an end.   Time for a deal to end the mass killing and destruction of Ukraine.

Which one invaded Chechnya and became president of his country by murdering 307 of his own citizens in the 1999 Russian Apartment Bombings?

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« Reply #2174 on: February 13, 2025, 10:58:08 PM »
Which one invaded Chechnya and became president of his country by murdering 307 of his own citizens in the 1999 Russian Apartment Bombings?

  Nobody is defending Putin here. Remember, during WW2 the U.S partnered up with Stalin. 

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« Reply #2175 on: February 13, 2025, 11:28:57 PM »
  Nobody is defending Putin here. Remember, during WW2 the U.S partnered up with Stalin.

Yeah, and Stalin infiltrated our government with his spies and Kremlin-loyal agents before, during, and after said war.

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« Reply #2176 on: February 13, 2025, 11:35:52 PM »
Yeah, and Stalin infiltrated our government with his spies and Kremlin-loyal agents before, during, and after said war.

For once we agree. At the Potsdam conference each delegation had it's own entrance and rooms and Stalin had them all bugged.

So much for partnering up!