U.S. Politics

[Royell Storing]

All valid concerns but the most important problem is why these helicopters were allowed to cross the approach into a major airport.  That is simply gross negligence on behalf of the military.  It's all gross negligence on behalf of the FAA for allowing this and not taking action EVEN after there had been recent incidents when incoming planes had to abort landings to avoid these helicopters.  It's inexplicable.  Like the secret service not safeguarding that building in Butler and allowing a shooter to have a line of sight to Trump.  That level of incompetence is astounding.

   You get a look at the course the Black Hawk Copter took as it traveled (S) down the river, and it Zig-Zags. I understand maybe they're training/doing maneuvers, etc, but coupled with it flying at roughly 400 feet, (double max permissible elevation), and then it veering over close to the landing strips, makes me wonder what was going on inside the copter. And then there's the ongoing secrecy surrounding the ID of the 3rd member of the copter crew. All of this combined smells. 

[John Iacoletti]

Speaking of "numbskulls who espouse conspiracy theories so absurd and contrary to reality that rational people are left aghast," how long have you been a tinfoil-hat JFK assassination conspiracy theorist?

On the contrary.  "Richard" espouses lone-nut theories so absurd and contrary to reality that rational people are left aghast.

[Tom Graves]

"Richard" espouses lone-nut theories so absurd and contrary to reality that rational people are left aghast.

If that's the case, the JFKA is the only thing he gets right.

[Richard Smith]

I have read that under normal circumstances two different controllers (and two different radio frequencies) were used. One to control helicopters and another to control airplanes. This seems to me to make things even more dangerous because the helicopters would not be able to hear what is happening with the plane traffic and vice versa. Therefore I think the resulting ignorance should be considered a prime factor in this accident.

These problems are easily solved.  Don't allow a helicopter to fly across the flight path of a major airport!  There are so many planes taking off and landing at that airport that it is easy to become confused.  If you watch the video of the collision, there is another plane ascending just above the one that was hit.  Flying a helicopter there is like trying to run across the racetrack during the Daytona 500. And doing that at night with night vision goggles on!  Good grief.  Eventually something bad is going to happen.

[Zeon Mason]

Well Richard agrees with me ( maybe?)that there was conspiracy of the media and the DOJ against Trump. So there’s still some hope of convincing him ( maybe) that there are valid some reasons to suspect conspiracy against JFK too.

After all there is similarity with JFK and Trump
Advocating for country 1st and both not so keen to get the country in a war so having similar enemy of the deep state and the MIC, and FBI and CIA too.

[Richard Smith]

Well Richard agrees with me ( maybe?)that there was conspiracy of the media and the DOJ against Trump. So there’s still some hope of convincing him ( maybe) that there are valid some reasons to suspect conspiracy against JFK too.

After all there is similarity with JFK and Trump
Advocating for country 1st and both not so keen to get the country in a war so having similar enemy of the deep state and the MIC, and FBI and CIA too.

Most of the establishment was working with JFK not against him.  He was a liberal icon.  I'm not sure there was necessarily any organized "conspiracy" against Trump. There didn't have to be.  The media and DOJ were out to get him but that was mostly their radicalized ideology playing out.  They knowingly perpetuated hoaxes and lies.  The ends justifying any means in their opinion.  They often took their cues from one another as you would see the same buzz word of the day used in every media story, but they all had TDS and were voluntarily doing everything possible to stop him. I'm not sure anyone was necessarily orchestrating this so much as they shared a common radicalized goal - to stay in power and stop Trump at all costs.  That has been the driving force.  It did have something similar to the effect of a psych-op operation on those most deranged with Trump hatred.  No other way to explain their level of anger and hatred toward him.  Those people are often unhinged.   You can see many examples of that on this thread dating back to Rick Plant who posted tens of thousands of long anti-Trump rants.

[Royell Storing]

Most of the establishment was working with JFK not against him.  He was a liberal icon.  I'm not sure there was necessarily any organized "conspiracy" against Trump. There didn't have to be.  The media and DOJ were out to get him but that was mostly their radicalized ideology playing out.  They knowingly perpetuated hoaxes and lies.  The ends justifying any means in their opinion.  They often took their cues from one another as you would see the same buzz word of the day used in every media story, but they all had TDS and were voluntarily doing everything possible to stop him. I'm not sure anyone was necessarily orchestrating this so much as they shared a common radicalized goal - to stay in power and stop Trump at all costs.  That has been the driving force.  It did have something similar to the effect of a psych-op operation on those most deranged with Trump hatred.  No other way to explain their level of anger and hatred toward him.  Those people are often unhinged.   You can see many examples of that on this thread dating back to Rick Plant who posted tens of thousands of long anti-Trump rants.

         "Not sure there was necessarily any organized conspiracy against Trump"? Seriously? What do you consider the Strozk, Page, McCabe email trail? How about the FISA warrants that were fraudulently obtained inside that "Star Chamber" where a transcript of the proceedings are Not kept? The Trump Transition Team was being surveilled before they walked in the front door of the White House. No conspiracy against Trump? That's a head shaker.