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Offline Richard Smith

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« Reply #2058 on: January 22, 2025, 05:11:20 PM »
Even if there was no "collusion" (e.g., between some combination of Roger Stone, Harley Schlanger (of the LaRouche organization), Paul Manafort, GRU officer Konstantin Kilimnik, Julian Assange and Vladimir Putin) -- which there probably was; Robert Muller failed to "follow the money" -- why did Putin's GRU, FSB, and professional Saint Petersburg trolls help The Traitorous Orange Turd win, and why did Russian oligarchs and mafia boys celebrate his Electoral College "victory" over Hillary Clinton?

False premise.  I don't know that the Russians helped Trump win (whatever that means).  Many people celebrated Hillary's defeat for obvious reasons.   Nothing nefarious in that.  More importantly, there is no evidence that any of Trump's policy decisions were influenced by the Russians.  He certainly tried to appeal to Putin's ego with good result.  No invasion of Ukraine. 

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« Reply #2059 on: January 22, 2025, 05:41:24 PM »
False premise.  I don't know that the Russians helped Trump win (whatever that means).  Many people celebrated Hillary's defeat for obvious reasons.   Nothing nefarious in that.  More importantly, there is no evidence that any of Trump's policy decisions were influenced by the Russians.  He certainly tried to appeal to Putin's ego with good result.  No invasion of Ukraine.

Specious reply.

Have you read the Mueller Report or the Senate Intelligence Committee Report?

Here's an excerpt from the Wikipedia article on the latter:

The Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee submitted the first part of its five-volume report in July 2019 in which it concluded that the January 2017 Intelligence Community assessment alleging Russian interference was "coherent and well-constructed." The first volume also concluded that the assessment was "proper," learning from analysts that there was "no politically motivated pressure to reach specific conclusions." The final and fifth volume, which was the result of three years of investigations, was released on August 18, 2020,[6] ending one of the United States "highest-profile congressional inquiries."[7][8] The Committee report found that the Russian government had engaged in an "extensive campaign" to sabotage the election in favor of Donald Trump, which included assistance from some of Trump's own advisers.[7]
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« Reply #2060 on: January 22, 2025, 06:56:54 PM »
The Bidens were so arrogant and corrupt that they made little effort to conceal their crimes.  Hunter was high most of the time.  He even wrote a book confessing to numerous felonies including sex trafficking.  It was only due to the influence of his father that he wasn't convicted years ago.  I do agree that the scope of their corruption was enormous and global in scale.  No one is suggesting that making money from legitimate business ventures, such as the Trump family has done for decades before Trump entered politics, is somehow a crime.  That is the American way.  In contrast, the Bidens had no business.  They simply shook down foreign governments and laundered the money.  And they got away with no consequences other than some minor embarrassment at the last-minute pardons.  They are a minor footnote of history now.  No one will ever give a second thought to Joe Biden or his corrupt family going forward.  If they are remembered at all, it will be for the enormous harm done in the US and around the world.

  And that stuff about Hunter having a warehouse full of Million Dollar paintings torched in the So Cal fires is probably an Insurance Scam. This is Tony Soprano stuff.

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« Reply #2061 on: January 22, 2025, 07:50:21 PM »
And that stuff about Hunter having a warehouse full of Million Dollar paintings torched in the So Cal fires is probably an Insurance Scam. This is Tony Soprano stuff.

Probably, huh?

Can you prove it, Storing, or do you just have a criminal mind and that's what you would have done?

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« Reply #2062 on: January 22, 2025, 08:36:09 PM »
Probably, huh?

Can you prove it, Storing, or do you just have a criminal mind and that's what you would have done?

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« Reply #2063 on: January 22, 2025, 08:48:31 PM »
   I'm a 2nd floor man. Strictly diamonds. Easy to fence.

Figures.

Offline Jack Trojan

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« Reply #2064 on: January 22, 2025, 09:55:46 PM »
You sound unhinged with TDS, but here goes.  Kushner is from a family that has an actual multi-billion-dollar business.  They made their money long before Trump ever came to power.  Can you see any difference from the Bidens who had no business or skill to market other than influence peddling?  Old Joe was a lifelong politician on a government salary, but he somehow retires a multimillionaire.  Not only that but his brothers, sister, and son are also multimillionaires despite having no business.  Nothing to see there.

Only Heir Drumpf could bankrupt Casinos, otherwise, his crime family has never been billionaires until Kushner got blood money from MBS. Kushner actually had to get bailed out from his disastrous purchase of 666 Fifth Ave. And don't get me started on all the rubles he owes Putin.

Only you deplorables give a sh*t about Biden's chump-change escapades, since your job is to distract from Heir Drumpf's "Big Grift". I'm curious what's in it for you deplorables, comrade?

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And you claim Trump is a Nazi in the same post where you acknowledge his son-in-law who is Jewish.  Trump's own daughter and grandchildren are Jewish.  Kushner's grandparents died in the Holocaust.  Trump had the families of the Jewish hostages stand behind him yesterday as he signed Executive Orders.  Can you see any contradiction in your claim that Trump is a Nazi when he is a proponent of Jews and Israel?  In contrast to Kacklin' Kamala and Old Joe, who stood silent while radical anti-Semite leftists overran college campuses and threatened Jewish students like something from 1930s Nazi Germany.

Wow. That's a lot of splainin' why Heir Drumpf isn't a Nazi. Because Jared is Jewish? :D Nazis love money way more than they hate Jews. Especially, Jew money acquired from dirty deals with Arabs. You do realize Heir Drumpf's share was included in Jared's deal, right?

Radical anti-semite leftists? HAHAHA!!! And I suppose Musk's Nazi salute was just his autistic social awkwardness. You deplorables slay me. Sieg heil comrade!

You never mentioned Heir Drumpf's 1500 pardons, even for leaders of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers. I assume because you're cool with it.  :-X 

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There is no evidence that links Jeffrey Epstein to Trump in nefarious way.  Epstein was just some rich guy who Trump ordered banned from his properties because he was a creep.  Epstein's "best buds" were leftists like Bill Clinton and Bill Gates who had more frequent flyer miles to his island than just about anyone.

No evidence you say? Who do you think had the where-with-all and the motive to have Epstein unalived in prison, comrade? There is also a "Catch-n-Kill" story retrieved from David Pecker's safe about a 13 yr old child that accuses Epstein & Drumpf of tag-team raping her on Epstein's island. She has since disappeared.

Let's see if Heir Drumpf ever releases the Epstein Files, like he said he'd do...or maybe not.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZJorAVgHy7Y

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