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Offline Richard Smith

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« Reply #1645 on: September 19, 2023, 03:33:21 PM »
Old Joe just paid another $6 billion in ransom money to Iran. Incentivizing others to take Americans hostage.  Instead of displaying strength and putting the screws to anyone who unjustly puts an American in jail, Ukraine Joe just caves and pays them off.  And he does this selectively to get only certain folks released while leaving others to languish.  The clown show goes on and on.

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« Reply #1646 on: September 19, 2023, 04:57:06 PM »
There were a reported 10K per day border crossings over the last few days.  Historic levels.  Total chaos and anarchy.  The authorities are overwhelmed with no place to house or feed these folks and no end in sight.  One of the largest human tragedies in history.  It's like something out of a dystopian movie.  There is no plan or even an attempt by Old Joe to address the disaster that he has unleased.  He is napping somewhere.  These folks are not just coming from Mexico and Central America but from around the world.  The complete failure to enforce the immigration laws including intentional efforts to thwart those laws is an impeachable crime. 

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #1647 on: September 19, 2023, 06:00:55 PM »
Fantastic contribution to the discussion.

what discussion would that be?

Whenever you get stuck in an ongoing discussion you ignore it and change the subject with more BS

What has "The Biden Express heading to the US across the open border." to do with your idiotic allegation that Joe Biden took bribes and used shell companies to launder money?

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« Reply #1648 on: September 19, 2023, 07:40:55 PM »
what discussion would that be?

Whenever you get stuck in an ongoing discussion you ignore it and change the subject with more BS

What has "The Biden Express heading to the US across the open border." to do with your idiotic allegation that Joe Biden took bribes and used shell companies to launder money?

There can be more than one news story relating to US politics.  A flood of illegal aliens crossing a wide-open border in historic numbers with the complicity of the Biden clown show is just one such example.  The Biden express is coming to a town near everyone!  But if you want to deflect from that disaster to Biden, Inc., do you think it is not suspicious for a family to receive millions from various foreign sources including Romania, Ukraine, China and Russia and then launder that money through numerous shell companies?  You believe setting up shell companies to funnel money from corrupt foreign source to various members of the VP's family is something that would happen if the participants believed that their conduct was legal?  LOL.  And that the son of the VP would be paid in diamonds by the Chinese to avoid tracing the cash.  Or that he would be given a $140K Porsche from a Kazakh businessman right after arranging for him to dine with his father.   Nothing to see there!  HA HA HA.   I know you want to play the endless contrarian but even you must know this is corruption.  The kind of thing that goes in corrupt third-world countries. 
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« Reply #1649 on: September 19, 2023, 09:42:45 PM »
There can be more than one news story relating to US politics.  A flood of illegal aliens crossing a wide-open border in historic numbers with the complicity of the Biden clown show is just one such example.  The Biden express is coming to a town near everyone!  But if you want to deflect from that disaster to Biden, Inc., do you think it is not suspicious for a family to receive millions from various foreign sources including Romania, Ukraine, China and Russia and then launder that money through numerous shell companies?  You believe setting up shell companies to funnel money from corrupt foreign source to various members of the VP's family is something that would happen if the participants believed that their conduct was legal?  LOL.  And that the son of the VP would be paid in diamonds by the Chinese to avoid tracing the cash.  Or that he would be given a $140K Porsche from a Kazakh businessman right after arranging for him to dine with his father.   Nothing to see there!  HA HA HA.   I know you want to play the endless contrarian but even you must know this is corruption.  The kind of thing that goes in corrupt third-world countries.

do you think it is not suspicious for a family to receive millions from various foreign sources including Romania, Ukraine, China and Russia

You mean like; isn't it suspicious that several companies linked to Donald Trump and his daughter Ilana received a large number of trademarks from China, when both of them were in the White House, or how a Saudi Investment Company gave $2 billion dollar to Jared Kushner.... that kind of "suspicious"?

I don't do suspicious. If you want to make an allegation, you'd better provide conclusive evidence or just shut up!

and then launder that money through numerous shell companies?

Do you have evidence for money laundering? If so, take it to the IRS. Comer doesn't do it, because he hasn't got it.

You believe setting up shell companies to funnel money from corrupt foreign source to various members of the VP's family is something that would happen if the participants believed that their conduct was legal?  LOL

Do you have any idea just how many shell companies are being set up for legit purposes every day? Shell companies are frequently used by all sorts of companies. Their use doesn't make illegal what they do.

And that the son of the VP would be paid in diamonds by the Chinese to avoid tracing the cash.  Or that he would be given a $140K Porsche from a Kazakh businessman right after arranging for him to dine with his father.   Nothing to see there!  HA HA HA.

Indeed, there's nothing to see unless, of course, you can produce evidence for both claims, but I seriously doubt you can't even prove that either thing ever happened, never mind for what purpose.

I know you want to play the endless contrarian but even you must know this is corruption.

If Joe Biden is corrupt then so is Donald Trump, or do the same rules not apply to Trump?
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« Reply #1650 on: September 20, 2023, 02:14:20 PM »
Trump is hitting an all time high for a republican candidate with minority voters according to the Wash Post.  They are abandoning Old Joe like everyone else.  The only question now is how long before he announces that he not running in 2024.

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« Reply #1651 on: September 20, 2023, 02:22:29 PM »
do you think it is not suspicious for a family to receive millions from various foreign sources including Romania, Ukraine, China and Russia

You mean like; isn't it suspicious that several companies linked to Donald Trump and his daughter Ilana received a large number of trademarks from China, when both of them were in the White House, or how a Saudi Investment Company gave $2 billion dollar to Jared Kushner.... that kind of "suspicious"?

I don't do suspicious. If you want to make an allegation, you'd better provide conclusive evidence or just shut up!

and then launder that money through numerous shell companies?

Do you have evidence for money laundering? If so, take it to the IRS. Comer doesn't do it, because he hasn't got it.

You believe setting up shell companies to funnel money from corrupt foreign source to various members of the VP's family is something that would happen if the participants believed that their conduct was legal?  LOL

Do you have any idea just how many shell companies are being set up for legit purposes every day? Shell companies are frequently used by all sorts of companies. Their use doesn't make illegal what they do.

And that the son of the VP would be paid in diamonds by the Chinese to avoid tracing the cash.  Or that he would be given a $140K Porsche from a Kazakh businessman right after arranging for him to dine with his father.   Nothing to see there!  HA HA HA.

Indeed, there's nothing to see unless, of course, you can produce evidence for both claims, but I seriously doubt you can't even proof that either thing ever happened, never mind for what purpose.

I know you want to play the endless contrarian but even you must know this is corruption.

If Joe Biden is corrupt then so is Donald Trump, or do the same rules not apply to Trump?

The comparison to Trump is laughable.  Of course, Trump and his family have been in business their entire lives.  He has actual businesses around the world long before entering politics.  That is how he made billions during his lifetime.  It is not a crime to have a legitimate business that provides goods and services and to make money.  In contrast, Old Joe is a lifelong politician.  He has no business or service to provide except his influence as a high ranking member of the government.   His son also had no business except selling access to his "pop."  And even if your false premise were true that Trump engaged in some unlawful conduct, that would in no way exonerate Old Joe and Dirty Hunter from breaking the law.  Moral equivalency is not a defense.  In terms of evidence of shell companies, the House report includes a detailed account of the millions sent to Dirty Hunter and the shell companies he used to funnel that money to himself and his family including the "big guy."  Do you think that is a lawful way to conduct business?  Do you think receiving diamonds from China is a normal form of payment fpr legal services?  How many people do you know are gifted a $140K Porsche from a foreign businessman after meeting with his dad?  Nothing to see there!