Biden delays JFK Files release

[Joe Elliott]

You are not making sense, Joe

This case, according to the official narrative, is about a lone nut with a rifle killing the President. How in the world does information about "friendly people in Cuba or elsewhere" relate to that narrative and why would that be part of the assassination files?

I am saying that it is possible that the “secret government files on the JFK assassination” might have nothing to do with the JFK assassination, but does cover other sensitive information.

Let me give you a possible example. This scenario is possibly truth or false. I do not know. Let’s assume for the moment that it is true:

The CIA was involved in trying to assassinate Castro. From Mafia figures Giancana and Roselli, they got the names of people in Cuba that they think might help them do this. These Cubans might be willing to help or might not have been willing. Either way, if this information becomes known, that the CIA thought they might be helpful, they could be in big trouble.

Years later, CTers claim the same people with the CIA working to kill Castro ended up killing Kennedy. They demand that all the government documents on Giancana and Roselli to be release to prove or refute this theory.

Well, it’s possible that none of the information provided by Giancana and Roselli has anything to do with the JFK assassination. Only with the attempt to assassinate Castro.

Question:

Should this information be released?

I would say no. I think such a release would do nothing to convince CTers and would only put certain Cubans or their families in danger. Possibly people who never had any intention to aid the CIA. But if you believe differently, justify it.

[Joe Elliott]

'the identity of 'friendly people'
_haha.. aka 'friendlies' in 'spy-craft' lingo
(Guess I've seen more spy movies than you, Joe)

Not necessarily. This group of “friendlies” could include:

* Cubans who wanted Castro killed or overthrown, and have communicated this desire, directly or indirectly, to the CIA.
* Cubans who support Castro, but some CIA contact mistakenly thinks they would help bring down Castro.

“friendlies” or “spies” refers to Cubans who the CIA believes might help the CIA overthrow Castro. This belief might in some cases by true while in others false. Never-the-less, all these people and maybe their families could be in big trouble if Cuba learned their identities, even many decades later.

[Martin Weidmann]

I am saying that it is possible that the “secret government files on the JFK assassination” might have nothing to do with the JFK assassination, but does cover other sensitive information.

Let me give you a possible example. This scenario is possibly truth or false. I do not know. Let’s assume for the moment that it is true:

The CIA was involved in trying to assassinate Castro. From Mafia figures Giancana and Roselli, they got the names of people in Cuba that they think might help them do this. These Cubans might be willing to help or might not have been willing. Either way, if this information becomes known, that the CIA thought they might be helpful, they could be in big trouble.

Years later, CTers claim the same people with the CIA working to kill Castro ended up killing Kennedy. They demand that all the government documents on Giancana and Roselli to be release to prove or refute this theory.

Well, it’s possible that none of the information provided by Giancana and Roselli has anything to do with the JFK assassination. Only with the attempt to assassinate Castro.

Question:

Should this information be released?

I would say no. I think such a release would do nothing to convince CTers and would only put certain Cubans or their families in danger. Possibly people who never had any intention to aid the CIA. But if you believe differently, justify it.

I am saying that it is possible that the “secret government files on the JFK assassination” might have nothing to do with the JFK assassination, but does cover other sensitive information.

There is a contradiction in your position. Files either relate to the JFK assassination or they don't.

How files that have nothing to do with the assassination can be “secret government files on the JFK assassination” is beyond me.

[Bill Chapman]

Not necessarily. This group of “friendlies” could include:

* Cubans who wanted Castro killed or overthrown, and have communicated this desire, directly or indirectly, to the CIA.
* Cubans who support Castro, but some CIA contact mistakenly thinks they would help bring down Castro.

“friendlies” or “spies” refers to Cubans who the CIA believes might help the CIA overthrow Castro. This belief might in some cases by true while in others false. Never-the-less, all these people and maybe their families could be in big trouble if Cuba learned their identities, even many decades later.

Why are you explaining what 'friendlies' are? What else did you think I meant?

Anyway, even Jefferson Morley (a few years ago) said nothing of any importance will come out
At least nothing that will turn the assassination upside down. Nothing that will shut up CTers at least.

Oswald: It was me. I did it.
CT Zombies: NO YOU DIDN'T! STOP LYING!

[Jerry Freeman]

Biden as a senator supported the JFK records release plan by the way...

Didn't he also say that he didn't see any need for vaccine mandates?

[Jon Banks]

Joe Rogan on the JFK files delay (Warning: Lots of profanity in the clip)