The TSBD rollcall that doubtfully happened

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: The TSBD rollcall that doubtfully happened
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2021, 01:56:50 AM »
If so, then it was a high-risk piece of escapology on Mr Truly's part. And it very nearly exploded in his face. For word had got around that he and the officer had in fact encountered Mr Oswald at the front door----------------indeed, DPD would soon be telling the press all about this!

Question!

Why didn't Mr Truly just stick with the story that the man caught walking away from the rear stairway on the third or fourth floor was Mr Oswald?

Answer!

Because he soon KNEW that word of Mr Oswald's encounter with the cop at the front entrance HAD GOTTEN OUT. The lunchroom was now the ONLY viable location for a fictional encounter because it allowed for TWO very different scenarios:
a) Mr Oswald shot JFK and hurried downstairs to the lunchroom
b) Mr Oswald was out front for the P. Parade and hurried upstairs to the lunchroom

Mr Truly (and Officer Baker, for that matter) needed INSURANCE in case undeniable proof of b) emerged in the coming days...........

That Mr Oswald's claim to have gone "outside to watch P. Parade" be suppressed from the official record, and that any witness apt to confirm his presence on those steps (starting with Mr Frazier and Mr Molina and Mr Shelley and Mr Lovelady) be pressurized into silence, thus became a matter of HIGHEST priority

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: The TSBD rollcall that doubtfully happened
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2021, 02:05:56 AM »
Roy Truly provided a hand written undated statement.
A higher quality view can be seen here----
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth338979/m1/1/

 

I am still searching for a mention of a roll call. The belief is that Oswald was not present at this alleged roster and therefore a hunt for him was instituted.   
It is now quite apparent that the search for Oswald was spontaneous.



                                                                Roy S Truly

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: The TSBD rollcall that doubtfully happened
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2021, 02:14:38 AM »
Roy Truly provided a hand written undated statement.

Yes, this is written on the Saturday. At the bottom of the last page is written 'Mrs Reed': the woman (actually Reid) who worked directly under Mr Truly and would be brought in that same day to bolster his lunchroom fiction

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I am still searching for a mention of a roll call. The belief is that Oswald was not present at this alleged roster and therefore a hunt for him was instituted.   
It is now quite apparent that the search for Oswald was spontaneous.

If Mr Oswald's name was dropped by Mr Truly in order to explain away the 'employee' caught walking away from the rear stairway on the third or fourth floor, then the need to later pretend that it was a roll call that quickly identified Mr Oswald as uniquely missing and suspicious is explained. A story was required that made Mr Truly's singling out of Mr Oswald seem innocent

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: The TSBD rollcall that doubtfully happened
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2021, 03:22:04 AM »
IF-------------------as I suspect------------------this man was the man caught by Officer Baker walking away from the rear stairway on the third or fourth floor................



...................THEN Mr Truly had reasonable expectation of getting away with his desperate substitution of him with Mr Oswald. The physical resemblance to Mr Oswald would be strong enough to fool Officer Baker in retrospect-------------and who was going to doubt Mr Truly's identification of one of his own employees?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The TSBD rollcall that doubtfully happened
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2021, 06:01:15 PM »
Let's continue this segment of Captain Fritz's WC testimony----------------

Mr. Ball. Did you question Oswald about that?
Mr. Fritz. Yes, sir; I asked him about that and he knew that the officer stopped him all right.
Mr. Ball. Did you ask him what he was doing in the lunchroom?
Mr. Fritz. He said he was having his lunch. He had a cheese sandwich and a Coca-Cola.
Mr. Ball. Did he tell you he was up there to get a Coca-Cola?
Mr. Fritz. He said he had a Coca-Cola.


Captain Fritz's responses are a masterclass in jesuitical evasion! He manages to answer Mr Ball's questions here WITHOUT telling a straight lie:

-Yes, Mr Oswald knew that the officer 'stopped' him (but NB! the lunchroom story does NOT involve Mr Oswald's being 'stopped')
-Yes, Mr Oswald did talk about going to the lunchroom
-Yes, Mr Oswald did say he had a Coca-Cola WHEN THE OFFICER 'STOPPED' HIM (at the front entrance), and Captain Fritz takes care NOT to say that yes, Mr Oswald said he was "up there" in the lunchroom when the officer stopped him------------he merely had the Coke which he HAD EARLIER BOUGHT up there in his hand and had since come downstairs.

What we're seeing here is the true role of the final version of the lunchroom fiction: to have a MOBILE Mr Oswald challenged; to involve a COKE; to get Mr Oswald AWAY from the front entrance seconds after the shooting; to make the NON-EMPLOYEE caught walking away from the rear stairway on the third or fourth floor disappear

Postscript!

As late as 23 December, Captain Fritz STILL believed what he had been told initially at the Depository: a suspicious employee was caught on the rear stairway by Officer Baker...............



"Our investigation"----------the one that showed it ACTUALLY happened in the lunchroom-----------must have been pretty darned slow. Captain Fritz is STILL going by what "Mr Truly or somebody" told him 11/22/63 in the Depository!  :D

 Mr Oswald did say he had a Coca-Cola WHEN THE OFFICER 'STOPPED' HIM (at the front entrance),

Please post the information that Oswald said the officer STOPPEDHIM....

Fritz asked Lee:...  "Where he was when the police officer stopped him.    And Fritz said that Lee replied...that he was on the second floor drinking a Coca Cola when the officer came in . "....(page 600 WR)   

Lee told Fritz that he was ON THE SECOND FLOOR drinking a Coca Cola when the officer came in..... 

It can't get any clearer than that Mr Ford.......

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The TSBD rollcall that doubtfully happened
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2021, 06:19:10 PM »
Roy Truly provided a hand written undated statement.
A higher quality view can be seen here----
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth338979/m1/1/

 

I am still searching for a mention of a roll call. The belief is that Oswald was not present at this alleged roster and therefore a hunt for him was instituted.   
It is now quite apparent that the search for Oswald was spontaneous.



                                                                Roy S Truly

the search for Oswald was spontaneous.

"Spontaneous".....As easily ignited...  And that's good description for what Roy Truly did....He ignited the raging fire to fry Lee Oswald....