Help re Black Dog Man recreation photo?

[Robert Reeves]

    Robert - In the "Early 00's" Gary Mack was still active and routinely doing his "front man" duties for the 6th Floor Museum. Did Gary Mack do the interview of Arnold's wife and son? Your detailing that Gordon Arnold thought his life was coming to an end and wanted to get his story out as early as 1984, makes it all the more incredible that Gary Mack failed to ever Q/A Arnold from 1984 going forward. Gordon Arnold and his story of allegedly being kicked around by a "policeman with no hat" was a cornerstone supporting the "Badge Man" schtick that Mack and Jack White pitched on "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" in 1988. Mack and Arnold not ever getting together when they were essentially pushing the very same story is illogical. There must be a reason that these main players never came together.

Hey Royell, Yes Gary Mack plus Stephen Fagin, the current boss at 6th, both of them interviewed Mary (wife) & Les Arnold (son) re Gordon. I just reread the transcript, it jogged my memory, I have also heard the audio recording of the interview with Gordon's wife and son. I just need to correct a few thing's. The interview was done in 2006. Gordon was injured by a hit-and-run in 1985. According to Godron's son, he only gave two interviews 'on the record' about the assassination. One to sixth floor museum, and The Men Who Killed Kennedy team. Gordon Arnold refused all other requests to speak. His wife said he only read one book on the assassination of JFK, Jim Marr's book. Woah, I just noticed at the end of the interview Gordon's wife offered to hand over Gordon's camera, allegedly the one he had in his hand during the assassination, and then Gary Mack says yes, and they'd love to have any notes of documents the family has on this subject.

Mary: Would you like to have the camera on display in the museum?
Gary: We would love to have anything donated for our Collection, especially the camera or the notes, the papers. We would certainly preserve them properly, and they ll be here forever. We would love to have them.
Mary: OK.
Gary: Thank you.

Hi Robert, I hope that you are doing well! Can you post any of the transcript? Also if you have a transcript of Bonnie Ray Williams, I would love to see that as well! Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael

@Michael Welch

Hi Michael, I purchased the transcript of the interview from the sixth floor museum and posted it in its entirety here on the forum about 5 years ago. Stephen Fagin contacted me within 24hrs politely asking me to remove it from the forum, as I'd breached sixth floor's copyright.

If you would like to read the whole transcript message me and let me know. That goes for anyone else HERE who is curious to read it. I will copy and paste it back@ you. (I don't know how many characters I can copy and paste in messages here). But if it's too many I can email anyone interested a copy.

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One thing I was curious to find out about: during the interview Gordon's wife said she believed Gordon's mother worked as a seamstress in the dal-tex building. People have posted the Zapruder employee list and she wasn't listed. But it would be interesting to know who Gordon Arnold's mother was working for. Gordon was hanging around the plaza waiting for his mother to come out on her dinner break so he could take some photographs with her (As he was deploying to Alaska). This was something Gordon Arnold never mentioned in The Men Who Killed Kennedy. He never clarified why he was lurking around the grassy knoll wearing his army uniform.

[Royell Storing]

Hey Royell, Yes Gary Mack plus Stephen Fagin, the current boss at 6th, both of them interviewed Mary (wife) & Les Arnold (son) re Gordon. I just reread the transcript, it jogged my memory, I have also heard the audio recording of the interview with Gordon's wife and son. I just need to correct a few thing's. The interview was done in 2006. Gordon was injured by a hit-and-run in 1985. According to Godron's son, he only gave two interviews 'on the record' about the assassination. One to sixth floor museum, and The Men Who Killed Kennedy team. Gordon Arnold refused all other requests to speak. His wife said he only read one book on the assassination of JFK, Jim Marr's book. Woah, I just noticed at the end of the interview Gordon's wife offered to hand over Gordon's camera, allegedly the one he had in his hand during the assassination, and then Gary Mack says yes, and they'd love to have any notes of documents the family has on this subject.

@Michael Welch

Hi Michael, I purchased the transcript of the interview from the sixth floor museum and posted it in its entirety here on the forum about 5 years ago. Stephen Fagin contacted me within 24hrs politely asking me to remove it from the forum, as I'd breached sixth floor's copyright.

If you would like to read the whole transcript message me and let me know. That goes for anyone else HERE who is curious to read it. I will copy and paste it back@ you. (I don't know how many characters I can copy and paste in messages here). But if it's too many I can email anyone interested a copy.

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One thing I was curious to find out about: during the interview Gordon's wife said she believed Gordon's mother worked as a seamstress in the dal-tex building. People have posted the Zapruder employee list and she wasn't listed. But it would be interesting to know who Gordon Arnold's mother was working for. Gordon was hanging around the plaza waiting for his mother to come out on her dinner break so he could take some photographs with her (As he was deploying to Alaska). This was something Gordon Arnold never mentioned in The Men Who Killed Kennedy. He never clarified why he was lurking around the grassy knoll wearing his army uniform.

   Robert - You mentioned that 1 of the 2 "on the record" interviews that Arnold did was with the 6th Floor Museum. Have you read/heard this Arnold interview? If so, what jumped out at you? There are many 6th Floor interviews available on You Tube. Yet, you got Fagin leaning on you with a laughable " 6th Floor's copyright" claim, even though you actually Purchased the transcript right there at the 6th Floor Museum. Just what is making the 6th Floor Museum wet their pants? The Gordon Arnold story continues reverberating to this day. Plus, it is extremely interesting that Fagin monitors the postings on this forum.       
    In "The Men Who Killed Kennedy", Arnold stated that he wanted to film the JFK Motorcade from atop the Triple Underpass, but was stopped from doing so by a guy showing CIA credentials. This would DQ the possibility that Arnold was simply hanging around Dealey Plaza waiting on his Mom. Arnold went to Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63 with his mission being the filming of the JFK Motorcade.

[Robert Reeves]

   Robert - You mentioned that 1 of the 2 "on the record" interviews that Arnold did was with the 6th Floor Museum. Have you read/heard this Arnold interview? If so, what jumped out at you? There are many 6th Floor interviews available on You Tube. Yet, you got Fagin leaning on you with a laughable " 6th Floor's copyright" claim, even though you actually Purchased the transcript right there at the 6th Floor Museum. Just what is making the 6th Floor Museum wet their pants? The Gordon Arnold story continues reverberating to this day. Plus, it is extremely interesting that Fagin monitors the postings on this forum.       
    In "The Men Who Killed Kennedy", Arnold stated that he wanted to film the JFK Motorcade from atop the Triple Underpass, but was stopped from doing so by a guy showing CIA credentials. This would DQ the possibility that Arnold was simply hanging around Dealey Plaza waiting on his Mom. Arnold went to Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63 with his mission being the filming of the JFK Motorcade.

I have tried to listen to the Sixth floor recording of Gordon Arnold, but no luck. It disappeared from the listing (last time I looked). I might go back through the transcript lists to see what is there. Yeah I was somewhat surprised Stephen Fagin contacted me, but I think it was him I dealt with in the purchase of the interview with Gordon's wife and son. I don't even see the harm in me posting the interview text. They're unfairly hoarding information about the assassination.

[Royell Storing]

I have tried to listen to the Sixth floor recording of Gordon Arnold, but no luck. It disappeared from the listing (last time I looked). I might go back through the transcript lists to see what is there. Yeah I was somewhat surprised Stephen Fagin contacted me, but I think it was him I dealt with in the purchase of the interview with Gordon's wife and son. I don't even see the harm in me posting the interview text. They're unfairly hoarding information about the assassination.

   As usual, the Gordon Arnold story/situation is something that the JFK Assassination Research Community should have been all over/cleaned up 35 yrs ago. Arnold detailed in "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" that he drove to Dealey Plaza = his living relatively close to Dealey Plaza. How difficult would it have been to track Him/Mom down and get his story nailed down? Personally, I believe in many cases this is exactly what has already been done and the info sat on/hoarded for whatever reason(s). You got Gary Mack, Jack White, and Gordon Arnold ALL highlighted on the "Men Who Killed Kennedy" 1988, and ALL inside Dealey Plaza. These people would have got together at some point and most likely multiple times as Arnold responses to questions would have led to further questions. Gary Mack got some stuff wrong, but that said, he always stayed on the scent. There's just no way Gary Mack/Badge Man did not get together with Gordon Arnold and get down to the brass tacks.  I'm not gonna speculate as to the possible connection between what Mack knew/suspected about the JFK Assassination and his eventually becoming curator of the 6th Floor. A few of us have been previously contacted by Gary Mack regarding issues under discussion on this Forum. Now, YOU tell us you were previously contacted by Fagin over an issue being discussed on this same Forum. This makes obvious that the postings/discussions on this Forum are being scrutinized by the 6th Floor Museum.     

[Robert Reeves]

Makes me wonder what exactly Gordon Arnold's wife handed over to the sixth floor. Gordon's wife offered them his camera, Gary Mack asked if they had any notes/documents! A lot like when the FBI/SS hoovered up almost all the evidence in the initial days after the assassination. The operation ensues!

[Jarrett Smith]

Makes me wonder what exactly Gordon Arnold's wife handed over to the sixth floor. Gordon's wife offered them his camera, Gary Mack asked if they had any notes/documents! A lot like when the FBI/SS hoovered up almost all the evidence in the initial days after the assassination. The operation ensues!

There isn't any evidence to hide because Gordon Arnold's story is BS. 

[Zeon Mason]

I’ve more or less discarded the badge man figure being some gunman because that’s an unnecessary total exposure of himself out in the open when behind the GK fence or at the far storm drain had much better concealment while still allowing almost as close a shot.