The lapel flip -- what did i miss?

[Royell Storing]

 This was 1963. Generally, people were Not wearing Tailored Clothing. Connally had on a loosely fitting dress jacket with Large Lapels. Those Large Lapels would be like the ears on an elephant. Ever seen an elephant shake its' head? The Ears Flap. Such was the case with Connally turning quickly to see what was going on in the backseat of the JFK Limo. I continue referring everyone to GOOD FOOTAGE of these same people boarding the JFK Limo at Love Field. JFK and Jackie were, "dressed to the Nine's". Everybody else was wearing "off the rack" clothing. Connally's Stetson being the exception.

[Michael T. Griffith]

Did the same gust of wind also cause his jacket to "puff" or bulge outward one frame earlier, or was that a different gust of wind?

One, let's start with the Knott Laboratory digital trajectory analysis of the SBT, the most sophisticated analysis ever done on the subject, that proves that JFK and Connally were not aligned to allow the SBT to occur. So the SBT is DOA from the outset because JFK and Connally were not aligned in the way required by the SBT.

Two, the jacket "bulge"? Seriously? Connally was in the process of turning his head and torso from right to left from at least Z222 until Z228, as anyone with two eyes can plainly see, and as Connally himself described. This torso turning would be the cause of any bulging of the jacket, not a bullet.

Three, anyone who's going to argue that a bullet passed through Connally in Z223-224 must explain what, then, caused JFK to freeze his waving motion and start to bring his hands toward his throat starting in Z200 and what caused Jackie to snap her head from left to right and to start staring at JFK. If a bullet made Connally's jacket bulge and caused his lapel to flip up in Z223-224, what, pray tell, caused JFK to freeze his waving motion and bring his hands toward his throat from Z200 through Z225, and what caused Jackie to suddenly snap her head left-to-right and start staring at JFK starting in Z202?

These things are obvious to anyone who is not blinded to them by their adherence to the SBT, not to mention the fact that Connally himself, the man who actually experienced the wounding, said he was certain he was not hit before Z229.

[Tom Graves]

One, let's start with the Knott Laboratory digital trajectory analysis of the SBT, the most sophisticated analysis ever done on the subject, that proves that JFK and Connally were not aligned to allow the SBT to occur.

The Knott Laboratory "analysis" regarding how JFK and JBC were horizontally and vertically positioned and how far the latter was turned to his right when CE-399 hit him is based on the graphics from a video game and is, therefore, a joke.

[Michael T. Griffith]

The Knott Laboratory "analysis" regarding how JFK and JBC were horizontally and vertically positioned and how far the latter was turned to his right when CE-399 hit him is based on the graphics from a video game and is, therefore, a joke.

Your reply is the joke. You can't be serious. I'm wondering if you've actually bothered to even read the Knott Lab analysis. The Knott Lab trajectory analysis dwarfs any previous analysis. No previous analysis even comes close to the sophistication and comprehensiveness of the Knott Lab analysis. No other analysis used millions of data points laser-recorded in Dealey Plaza and converted into a digital replica of the plaza. Just to refresh your memory about the Knott Lab analysis:

Using a 3D laser scanner (Leica RTC360), we conducted 36 laser scans of Dealey Plaza. This laser scanner captures up to two million points per second and HDR imagery, resulting in a point cloud, or digital twin, of the scene. This provides forensic engineers with a scientifically accurate model from which measurements can be taken. The Dealey Plaza point cloud has over 851 million data points.

The next step was to reconstruct the scene to historic accuracy for November 22, 1963. To do so, our visualization experts used historic photographs of the plaza and presidential limousine, as well as the “Zapruder film,” which is widely considered the best video footage of the incident. Using a process called photogrammetry, the visualization team was able to place these images into the point cloud, syncing their locations within the scene. Altogether, 25 historic photographs and 7 frames of the Zapruder film were used for this photogrammetry. . . .

Photogrammetry, camera matching, camera tracking and object matching processes were also used to establish the location of Oswald’s perch, the correct dimensions of the limousine, create the digital models of President Kennedy and Governor Connally, and establish their positions, frame by frame, throughout the incident. . . .

With the ability to measure distances, locations and angles from the point cloud, we could develop the exact trajectory between Oswald’s shooting position and points on each body. Our visualization experts tested bullet trajectories using the two frames from the Zapruder film (Z210 and Z225) where the first shots occurred.

For the single bullet theory to be true, the shooting position, bullet exit point on President Kennedy, and entry point on Governor Connally should all be reasonably in line. When drawing this line from the sixth-floor perch of the Texas Book Depository to the positions of the two men and their entry/exit points, we found a significant difference in both distance and angle. (https://knottlab.com/blog/knott-laboratory-presents-digital-reconstruction-and-findings-on-the-assassination-of-president-john-f-kennedy/)

[Tom Graves]

Your reply is the joke. You can't be serious. I'm wondering if you've actually bothered to even read the Knott Lab analysis. The Knott Lab trajectory analysis dwarfs any previous analysis. No previous analysis even comes close to the sophistication and comprehensiveness of the Knott Lab analysis. No other analysis used millions of data points laser-recorded in Dealey Plaza and converted into a digital replica of the plaza.

Why does Knott Labs' "analysis" have JBC facing almost straight ahead when he's hit by CE-399, and why does it play a deceitful, optical-illusion-like trick with the way it highlighted the green trajectory line in such a way that makes it appear that the wound in JBC's back was significantly farther away (i.e., about 8 inches off) from the HSCA's location than its own analysis concluded (i.e., about 3 inches off)?

[Jack Nessan]

Your reply is the joke. You can't be serious. I'm wondering if you've actually bothered to even read the Knott Lab analysis. The Knott Lab trajectory analysis dwarfs any previous analysis. No previous analysis even comes close to the sophistication and comprehensiveness of the Knott Lab analysis. No other analysis used millions of data points laser-recorded in Dealey Plaza and converted into a digital replica of the plaza. Just to refresh your memory about the Knott Lab analysis:

When drawing this line from the sixth-floor perch of the Texas Book Depository to the positions of the two men and their entry/exit points, we found a significant difference in both distance and angle.   

 
Apparently at Knotts Lab you just need a theory, no matter how bizarre, and not think things through. There is no accounting for the bullet that passed through JFK. The green line still strikes JBC in the back. You would have thought someone there would have viewed that as a problem. To add insult to injury the same group has a trajectory on the JBC wound that originates in outer space.

 

 

 

[Michael T. Griffith]

What makes the Knott Laboratory SBT trajectory analysis all the more impressive and important is that Knott Laboratory has been an industry leader in forensic engineering and accident reconstruction animation services for over 40 years. The company's experts include structural and mechanical engineers, fire and explosion investigators, visualization experts, accident reconstructionists, and digital media forensics experts. That's why John Orr, a former Justice Department attorney, hired them to analyze the SBT.

To reconstruct the shooting scene with modern technology, Knott's experts conducted a high-definition laser scan of Dealey Plaza to generate a point cloud of up to 2 million points per second, to accurately measure point-to-point anywhere in the scene. Knott Laboratory also obtained historic photographic evidence from the plaza, the limousine, and the Zapruder film. Here's what happened after that:

From this point cloud, the team of forensic engineers was able to match images from the scene and the Zapruder film using a process called photogrammetry. They modeled the presidential limousine using multiple photographs and established the correct dimensions of the vehicle. Through a process called match moving, they synced frames from the Zapruder film into the digital recreation of the scene. The match moving enabled the alignment of the digital models of Kennedy and Connally in the vehicle to establish their positions frame by frame throughout the incident.

“With the ability to measure distances, locations and angles from the point cloud, we could develop the exact trajectory between Oswald’s shooting position and points on each body,” said Stanley Stoll, CEO & Principal Engineer of Knott Laboratory. “Our team tested bullet trajectories using the two frames from the Zapruder film where the first shots occurred and the known entry and exit points on Kennedy and Connally.”

Stoll continued, “The shooting position, bullet exit point on President Kennedy, and entry point on Governor Connally should all be reasonably in line. When drawing this line from the sixth floor perch of the Texas Book Depository to the positions of the two men and their entry/exit points, we found a significant angle difference. This case is ongoing, but evidence strongly suggests there is more to the story in this historic event. Modern science refutes the Warren Commission’s findings on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.” (https://knottlab.com/blog/knott-lab-uses-forensic-science-to-refute-warren-commission-findings-on-jfk-assassination/)

No previous SBT analysis even came close to this level of locational data volume and accuracy and analytical sophistication. WC apologists can do nothing but offer lame excuses for refusing to accept this scientific finding. If Knott Lab had determined that JFK and Connally were SBT aligned, lone-gunman theorists would be hailing the trajectory analysis as definitive and conclusive, but since it found the opposite, they dismiss it, proving that not even hard science can sway them from their emotional devotion to the lone-assassin scenario.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Michael Griffith and other conspiracy fantasists (yes, there are sensible ones) rejected the Itek study, the Myers recreation of the shooting, the analysis of the Zapruder film, the backyard photos and the x-rays. All were dismissed as meaningless and worthless.

Now he's lecturing people on believing the "science"?

Mr. Griffith believes that Clay Shaw, David Ferrie and Oswald conspired to assassinate the president. They came up with the plan at a gathering while complete strangers (!?) listened to them. They then took that plan to the CIA who carried it out. Yes they did. The plan that was overheard by strangers. However he also believes in John Newman's work. Newman says the Pentagon, chiefly Lemnitzer and Lansdale, was behind the assassination but not the CIA. But Mr. Griffith said he believes the Garrison claim about the CIA. So which is it? The CIA or military? Does he know the difference? He also believes, as I mentioned above, that the Zapruder film was faked, the backyard photos faked, the x-rays faked and that all of this fakery and more has been covered up. He says that "disinformation agents" from the government, apparently the CIA but who knows?, are actively covering up what happened. Right now. On the internet. And in the media. Yes, he believes all of this. And more..

So how many people does he say did all of this? Faked all of this? Including those today, the disinformation agents? He says, "About twenty to thirty."

And one more: He says Sirhan Sirhan was "hypno-programmed" (whatever that is) to shoot RFK.

If the phrase "crackpot beliefs" comes to mind then welcome to the club.