The lapel flip -- what did i miss?

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Online Tom Graves

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Re: The lapel flip -- what did i miss?
« Reply #231 on: June 19, 2025, 07:44:51 PM »
That’s pretty much what I think. Although the precise timing of the first and second shots are debatable.
(I do wonder whether Connally hasn’t turned around too much by 270 to be hit in the back).

Connally was hit in the back between Z-222 and Z-224.

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Re: The lapel flip -- what did i miss?
« Reply #232 on: June 19, 2025, 08:09:14 PM »
Connally was hit in the back between Z-222 and Z-224.

In 225 he appears to be smiling.

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Re: The lapel flip -- what did i miss?
« Reply #233 on: June 19, 2025, 08:39:53 PM »
Dear Royell "Whaddabout Dis and Waddabout Dat?" Storing,

What about Secret Service Agent George Hickey's leaning over to look at the pavement starting around frame 150 in the Zapruder film?

-- Tom

PS I could go on and on.

      There's a difference between Wiegman claiming a bullet whizzed by his face at close to ground level, and someone possibly, "leaning over to look at the pavement". Wiegman also said when he ran Up the knoll he saw SA Lem Johns up there. SA Johns claimed that he jumped out of the LBJ SS Car and ran down Elm St toward the JFK Limo when the Kill Shot was fired. SA Johns said he was then stranded on Elm St and never left the street. There are No Images of SA Lem Johns physically being on Elm St at any point in time. Also, NO eyewitnesses saw SA Johns running down Elm St or on Elm St that day. For Wiegman to see Johns UP on the knoll, would put Johns within a stones throw of the "bushes" and the Huge Gates. Think about it.   

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Re: The lapel flip -- what did i miss?
« Reply #234 on: June 19, 2025, 08:45:23 PM »
In 225 he appears to be smiling.

I suppose some people appear to do something incongruous (like smile at the Stemmons Freeway sign or some-such thing) 1/18 of a second after they've been hit in the back by a 160-grain bullet that's travelling about 1700 feet-per-second.
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Re: The lapel flip -- what did i miss?
« Reply #235 on: June 19, 2025, 08:48:19 PM »
There's a difference between Wiegman claiming a bullet whizzed by his face at close to ground level, and someone possibly, "leaning over to look at the pavement". Wiegman also said when he ran Up the knoll he saw SA Lem Johns up there. SA Johns claimed that he jumped out of the LBJ SS Car and ran down Elm St toward the JFK Limo when the Kill Shot was fired. SA Johns said he was then stranded on Elm St and never left the street. There are No Images of SA Lem Johns physically being on Elm St at any point in time. Also, NO eyewitnesses saw SA Johns running down Elm St or on Elm St that day. For Wiegman to see Johns UP on the knoll, would put Johns within a stones throw of the "bushes" and the Huge Gates. Think about it.

Storing,

What do you mean "possibly"?

What do you think Hickey's doing in Z-150?

Leaning over to vomit because he had too much to drink earlier that morning at The Cellar?

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Re: The lapel flip -- what did i miss?
« Reply #236 on: June 19, 2025, 09:27:48 PM »
Storing,

What do you mean "possibly"?

What do you think Hickey's doing in Z-150?

Leaning over to vomit because he had too much to drink earlier that morning at The Cellar?

   I do Not know what Hickey might be doing. I am curious why SA Hickey is sitting so much higher than everyone else inside the Queen Mary. He has to be sitting on top of something. Maybe something connected to that AR15 on the floorboard?

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Re: The lapel flip -- what did i miss?
« Reply #237 on: June 19, 2025, 10:13:25 PM »
I do Not know what Hickey might be doing. I am curious why SA Hickey is sitting so much higher than everyone else inside the Queen Mary. He has to be sitting on top of something. Maybe something connected to that AR15 on the floorboard?

Maybe he was leaning over to make sure the tires were properly inflated.