Oswald: No power lunch

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #476 on: October 03, 2021, 02:58:49 AM »
How would Molina or Davis factor into it one way or the other?

If you want to have Ms Adams not leaving the fourth floor until several minutes after the shooting, then you need to keep Mr Molina and Ms Davis front of house until an even longer several minutes after the shooting. Good luck reconciling that need of yours with what Mr Molina and Ms Davis themselves have to say! Thumb1:

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Adams never said exactly where the officer was standing WRT the tracks. And, immediately West of the TSBD, there are plenty of railroad tracks. The first set you'd run into were the spur that serves the building directly. Those are a few feet from the building itself. Past the TSBD spur, there's another spur maybe 15' - 20' away. There are a couple of other spurs that run through the parking lot area. If anything, it would be harder to stand near the rear of TSBD without being near railroad tracks that it would to be stand near them.

Pure gaslighting waffle, Mr Todd. Fact is, the officer was not preventing egress from and ingress into the building. The linchpin of your timeline accordingly melts

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« Reply #477 on: October 03, 2021, 03:10:55 AM »
As for your take on the officer, I don't get that he would have needed her to actually go in, just that she stayed on the premises. He doesn't necessarily need to keep them inside; in fact, it might be a bad idea if there's an armed, desperate man inside.

So he sends them back to the building but forgets to mention they shouldn't go back inside!  :D

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He just wanted them to remain at the facility.

Well he can't have wanted that very much, can he?---------------he lets them walk around the building, where they are free to proceed to the street!

Sorry, Mr Todd, but this officer just isn't doing what you need him do here

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #478 on: October 03, 2021, 03:13:57 AM »
Nothing needs to be reconciled. Her signature is on the transcript, and her writing (it matches the signature) is on the page in question.

Her handwriting could easily have been copied (as to style and substance) from a document she actually did write on

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #479 on: October 03, 2021, 03:17:00 AM »
I'm not the one struggling here. I pointed out that Truly said he encountered a DPD officer on the 4th floor as he was descending from the roof. I posited that Garner could have seen some part of this, then later associated the encounter that she saw with the initial Truly/Baker ascent when she later heard about it.

Actually, Mr Todd, you are the one struggling. Your UP-is-DOWN solution here is laughably strained

Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #480 on: October 04, 2021, 03:27:09 PM »
If you want to have Ms Adams not leaving the fourth floor until several minutes after the shooting, then you need to keep Mr Molina and Ms Davis front of house until an even longer several minutes after the shooting. Good luck reconciling that need of yours with what Mr Molina and Ms Davis themselves have to say! Thumb1:

Pure gaslighting waffle, Mr Todd. Fact is, the officer was not preventing egress from and ingress into the building. The linchpin of your timeline accordingly melts

 Molina and Davis aren't corroborating an Adam's early departure. That is all you believing they did.

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« Reply #481 on: October 04, 2021, 07:00:33 PM »
Molina and Davis aren't corroborating an Adam's early departure. That is all you believing they did.

Oh, so you believe that Mr Molina and Ms Davis both give to understand that they lingered at the front of the building for at least five minutes? Cite, please!  Thumb1:
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Re: Oswald: No power lunch
« Reply #482 on: October 05, 2021, 03:27:15 AM »
Oh, so you believe that Mr Molina and Ms Davis both give to understand that they lingered at the front of the building for at least five minutes? Cite, please!  Thumb1:
It's up to you to cite where Molina and/or Davis said they were at any given time, since you brought them up. Don't be a Caprio.