Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?

[Jerry Freeman]

Mr. BALL. Did you ever know a man named Roger Craig, a deputy sheriff?
Mr. FRITZ. Roger Craig, I might if I knew which one he was. Do we have it here?
Mr. BALL. He was a witness from whom you took a statement in your office or some of your men.
Mr. FRITZ. Some of my officers.
Mr. BALL. He is a deputy sheriff.
Mr. FRITZ. One deputy sheriff who started to talk to me but he was telling me some things that I knew wouldn't help us and I didn't talk to him but someone else took an affidavit from him. His story that he was telling didn't fit with what we knew to be true.
Mr. BALL. Roger Craig stated that about 15 minutes after the shooting he saw a man, a white man, leave the Texas State Book Depository Building, run across a lawn, and get into a white Rambler driven by a colored man.
Mr. FRITZ. I don't think that is true.
Mr. BALL. I am stating this. You remember the witness now?
Mr. FRITZ. I remember the witness; yes, sir.

Another dumb mistake by Fritz trying to BS his way out. In the very beginning of an investigation you don't dismiss leads like that unless......

From page 160 of the Report----

Craig testified that later in the afternoon he saw Oswald in the police interrogation room and told Captain Fritz that Oswald was the man he saw.451 Craig also claimed that when Fritz pointed out to Oswald that Craig had identified him, Oswald rose from his chair, looked directly at Fritz, and said, "Everybody will know who I am now." 452

The Commission could not accept important elements of Craig's testimony. Captain Fritz stated that a deputy sheriff whom he could not identify did ask to see him that afternoon and told him a similar story to Craig's.453 Fritz did not bring him into his office to identify Oswald but turned him over to Lieutenant Baker for questioning. If Craig saw Oswald that afternoon, he saw him through the glass windows of the office. And neither Captain Fritz nor any other officer can remember that Oswald dramatically arose from his chair and said, "Everybody will know who I am now." 454 If Oswald had made such a statement, Captain Fritz and others present would probably have remembered it.

Fritz did not bring [Roger Craig] into his office to identify Oswald

Why [with a witness identification looming so importantly] would not Captain Fritz be extremely eager to have this done?

[Jerry Freeman]

  "...and the jacket and the trouser made up "LIKE A BLUE UNIFORM."
The only thing it says about the jacket is that it is similar to the pants. Do you accept this or not?

What happened then...to this blue jacket that the passenger was wearing?

[Walt Cakebread]

Are you joking Walt?

"It wasn’t khaki pants but they were khaki material,
blue faded blue color, like a blue uniform made in khaki.

This is a description of the pants.
You must surely comprehend that this is a description of the pants.
It is not a description of the jacket.

"Whaley said the trousers and Jacket were made of "khaki" material"

Firstly, Whaley does not say the pants and jacket were made of a "khaki" material.
He says the jacket was similar to the pants but he doesn't say the jacket was blue or that it was made of a khaki material.

"...and the jacket and the trouser made up "LIKE A BLUE UNIFORM."

You are either joking or having some kind of senior moment.
You can't make it a fact by asserting your interpretation of what you're reading Walt.
The only thing it says about the jacket is that it is similar to the pants. Do you accept this or not?

Dan I expected an HONEST debate from you....  Guess I should have known better....

You have admitted that Whaley's passenger was wearing a JACKET....  Lee Oswald was NOT wearing a Jacket.

Now can you man up and admit that Lee Oswald was NOT Whaley's passenger?

[John Mytton]

The only facts you stick to Walt are the ones you make up.

Not True....  Can't you comprehend what Whaley said... He said Quote....

"It wasn’t khaki pants but they were khaki material,
blue faded blue color, like a blue uniform made in khaki.

I don't know how it can be made any simpler....  Whaley said the trousers and Jacket were made of "khaki" material. He probably meant a cotton twill fabric.....  But never- the- less he said the trousers were BLUE....and the jacket and the trouser made up "LIKE A BLUE UNIFORM."

How can you continue to deny this fact?

JohnM

[John Mytton]

This will not save Dan...

The only thing it says about the jacket is that it is similar to the pants. Do you accept this or not?

Still calculating cab ride odds?

Sorry!

Mr. BALL. Did Whaley say anything to you personally?
Mr. LEAVELLE. To me personally?
Mr. BALL. Yes.
Mr. LEAVELLE. Well, of course, I asked him if he---if the man that he remembered or saw there, whatever he was identifying him for there was up there and he said "Yes, the man in the T-shirt." Whether he was doing all the talking or not wouldn't make any difference, he still knew him.



JohnM

[Dan O'meara]

What happened then...to this blue jacket that the passenger was wearing?

??

[Dan O'meara]

Dan I expected an HONEST debate from you....  Guess I should have known better....

You have admitted that Whaley's passenger was wearing a JACKET....  Lee Oswald was NOT wearing a Jacket.

Now can you man up and admit that Lee Oswald was NOT Whaley's passenger?

Really Walt?

Well I didn't expect an honest debate with you.
I expected you to stick with your  "I only deal with facts" routine even when it was clearly pointed out that you were mistaken.
Whaley describes faded blue pants made of a khaki material. He says the jacket is similar to the pants.
But he does not say the jacket is blue.
You are incorrect to insist it is a fact Whaley described a blue jacket.
You are absolutely incorrect.
But I don't expect you to accept that.
I expect you to try and change the subject exactly as you are doing.
Why don't you man up and accept your mistake?