Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #231 on: September 14, 2021, 01:25:47 AM »
There may well be a person called Darryl/Darrel Glick.
But they have nothing to do with this case. If you have solid evidence otherwise please present it or I'll have to assume it's something you've made up/seriously misunderstood (Reply # 191)

My bad Walt.
That means not a single CTer has been able to provide a plausible explanation for Oswald's movements after leaving the TSBD.
Not a single one.

"Whaley left the Greyhound bus depot with his passenger about 15 minutes before Lee Oswald could have arrived at the bus depot taxi stand."

This is not a fact.
It's your interpretation of Whaley's manifest from which you take his rounded off, estimated times as actual times.

"Whaley said that his passenger was wearing  a BLUE JACKET and BLUE trousers."

This is not a fact.
Nowhere does Whaley state Oswald was wearing a blue jacket.
The fact is that the only colour Whaley applies to the jacket is grey.

Just do what everyone else does - snipe at the inconsistencies in the case whilst offering no other solution and carry on waving the flag of "Truth".


The testimony of William Whaley.....
 
Mr. BALL. Did you notice how he was dressed?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir. I didn’t pay much attention to it right then. But it
all came back when I really found out who I had. He was dressed in just
ordinary work clothes. It wasn’t khaki pants but they were khaki material,
blue faded blue color, like a blue uniform made in khaki.
Then he had on a
brown shirt with a little silverlike stripe on it and he had on some kind
of jacket, I didn’t notice very close hut I think it was a work jacket that
almost matched the pants.

"Whaley said that his passenger was wearing  a BLUE JACKET and BLUE trousers."

This is not a fact.
Nowhere does Whaley state Oswald that his passenger was wearing a blue jacket.

Whaley...  "it wasn’t khaki pants but they were khaki material, blue faded blue color, like a blue uniform made in khaki.
Whaley....."I think it was a work jacket that almost matched the pants."
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #232 on: September 14, 2021, 01:39:34 AM »
The reason this thread has been worn out is because John asked any CTer to provide a plausible explanation of Oswald's movements after leaving the TSBD if not the public transport as described in the "official" narrative.

Except that was not the question behind the thread started by Mr Mytton----------read the thread title!  Thumb1:

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #233 on: September 14, 2021, 02:02:16 AM »

The testimony of William Whaley.....
 
Mr. BALL. Did you notice how he was dressed?
Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir. I didn’t pay much attention to it right then. But it
all came back when I really found out who I had. He was dressed in just
ordinary work clothes. It wasn’t khaki pants but they were khaki material,
blue faded blue color, like a blue uniform made in khaki.
Then he had on a
brown shirt with a little silverlike stripe on it and he had on some kind
of jacket, I didn’t notice very close hut I think it was a work jacket that
almost matched the pants.

"Whaley said that his passenger was wearing  a BLUE JACKET and BLUE trousers."

This is not a fact.
Nowhere does Whaley state Oswald that his passenger was wearing a blue jacket.

Whaley...  "it wasn’t khaki pants but they were khaki material, blue faded blue color, like a blue uniform made in khaki.
Whaley....."I think it was a work jacket that almost matched the pants."

Yeah, Walt
Nowhere does Whaley describe a blue jacket.
He describes blue pants.
But he does not describe a blue jacket.
The jacket almost matched the pants in some unspecified way.
But he does not describe a blue jacket.
You really need to see this.
It is not a fact that Whaley describes a blue jacket.


Mr. BALL. Here is Commission No. 162 which is a gray jacket with zipper.
Mr. WHALEY. I thank that is the jacket he had on when he rode with me in the cab.


The only facts you stick to Walt are the ones you make up.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #234 on: September 14, 2021, 02:10:12 AM »
Yeah, Walt
Nowhere does Whaley describe a blue jacket.
He describes blue pants.
But he does not describe a blue jacket.
(...)
It is not a fact that Whaley describes a blue jacket.

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Mr. Ball. Here is Commission No. 162 which is a gray jacket with zipper.
Mr. Whaley. I thank that is the jacket he had on when he rode with me in the cab.
Mr. Ball. Look something like it? And here is Commission Exhibit No. 163, does this look like anything he had on?
Mr. Whaley. He had this one on or the other one.
Mr. Ball. That is right.
Mr. Whaley. That is what I told you I noticed. I told you about the shirt being open, he had on the two jackets with the open shirt.
Mr. Ball. Wait a minute, we have got the shirt which you have identified as the rust brown shirt with the gold stripe in it.
Mr. Whaley. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. You said that a jacket--
Mr. Whaley. That jacket now it might have been clean, but the jacket he had on looked more the color, you know like a uniform set, but he had this coat here on over that other jacket, I am sure, sir.
Mr. Ball. This is the blue-gray jacket, heavy blue-gray jacket.
Mr. Whaley. Yes, sir.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #235 on: September 14, 2021, 02:20:59 AM »
Yeah, Walt
Nowhere does Whaley describe a blue jacket.
He describes blue pants.
But he does not describe a blue jacket.
The jacket almost matched the pants in some unspecified way.
But he does not describe a blue jacket.
You really need to see this.
It is not a fact that Whaley describes a blue jacket.


Mr. BALL. Here is Commission No. 162 which is a gray jacket with zipper.
Mr. WHALEY. I thank that is the jacket he had on when he rode with me in the cab.





The only facts you stick to Walt are the ones you make up.

Not True....  Can't you comprehend what Whaley said... He said Quote....

"It wasn’t khaki pants but they were khaki material,
blue faded blue color, like a blue uniform made in khaki.

I don't know how it can be made any simpler....  Whaley said the trousers and Jacket were made of "khaki" material. He probably meant a cotton twill fabric.....  But never- the- less he said the trousers were BLUE....and the jacket and the trouser made up "LIKE A BLUE UNIFORM."

How can you continue to deny this fact?




Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #236 on: September 14, 2021, 02:33:25 AM »
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Mr. Ball. Here is Commission No. 162 which is a gray jacket with zipper.
Mr. Whaley. I thank that is the jacket he had on when he rode with me in the cab.
Mr. Ball. Look something like it? And here is Commission Exhibit No. 163, does this look like anything he had on?
Mr. Whaley. He had this one on or the other one.
Mr. Ball. That is right.
Mr. Whaley. That is what I told you I noticed. I told you about the shirt being open, he had on the two jackets with the open shirt.
Mr. Ball. Wait a minute, we have got the shirt which you have identified as the rust brown shirt with the gold stripe in it.
Mr. Whaley. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. You said that a jacket--
Mr. Whaley. That jacket now it might have been clean, but the jacket he had on looked more the color, you know like a uniform set, but he had this coat here on over that other jacket, I am sure, sir.
Mr. Ball. This is the blue-gray jacket, heavy blue-gray jacket.
Mr. Whaley. Yes, sir.


Here's another champion witness who puts a blue jacket on "Oswald"---------------------------Mr Roy Milton Jones:



He reminds one of a young Mr Oswald, no?

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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #237 on: September 14, 2021, 02:48:48 AM »

The only facts you stick to Walt are the ones you make up.

Not True....  Can't you comprehend what Whaley said... He said Quote....

"It wasn’t khaki pants but they were khaki material,
blue faded blue color, like a blue uniform made in khaki.

I don't know how it can be made any simpler....  Whaley said the trousers and Jacket were made of "khaki" material. He probably meant a cotton twill fabric.....  But never- the- less he said the trousers were BLUE....and the jacket and the trouser made up "LIKE A BLUE UNIFORM."

How can you continue to deny this fact?

Are you joking Walt?

"It wasn’t khaki pants but they were khaki material,
blue faded blue color, like a blue uniform made in khaki.

This is a description of the pants.
You must surely comprehend that this is a description of the pants.
It is not a description of the jacket.

"Whaley said the trousers and Jacket were made of "khaki" material"

Firstly, Whaley does not say the pants and jacket were made of a "khaki" material.
He says the jacket was similar to the pants but he doesn't say the jacket was blue or that it was made of a khaki material.

"...and the jacket and the trouser made up "LIKE A BLUE UNIFORM."

You are either joking or having some kind of senior moment.
You can't make it a fact by asserting your interpretation of what you're reading Walt.
The only thing it says about the jacket is that it is similar to the pants. Do you accept this or not?