Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?

Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members

Author Topic: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?  (Read 194269 times)

Offline Walt Cakebread

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7322
Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #84 on: September 01, 2021, 11:20:15 PM »
And if Whaley is part of the BusCab Hoax why is he giving information that contradicts the timeline the hoaxers are trying to establish?
Hasn't he been coached what to say?

There's no doubt that Whaley is part of the Bus/Cab tale......  He unwittingly got himself involved when he started bragging to his fellow cabbies about how he unknowingly had transported the killer to Oakcliff just minutes after the shooting.

If he'd been smart he would have immediately recanted  and told the police that he'd just been BSin his buddies, when the police arrived and wanted to know about the event.  But Whaley wasn't very bright and continued to tell the story about how he'd picked up the man at the Greyhound buss depot and delivered him to the 500 block of Beckley.

Online Dan O'meara

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3774
Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #85 on: September 01, 2021, 11:29:52 PM »
There's no doubt that Whaley is part of the Bus/Cab tale......  He unwittingly got himself involved when he started bragging to his fellow cabbies about how he unknowingly had transported the killer to Oakcliff just minutes after the shooting.

If he'd been smart he would have immediately recanted  and told the police that he'd just been BSin his buddies, when the police arrived and wanted to know about the event.  But Whaley wasn't very bright and continued to tell the story about how he'd picked up the man at the Greyhound buss depot and delivered him to the 500 block of Beckley.

Errr...
So you're saying Whaley did actually take Oswald to Beckley?
Or are you saying he didn't take Oswald but was just making it up to impress his buddies?
And when it so happened the hoaxers needed a cab driver to be part of the BusCab Hoax he seemed the obvious choice?

Online Dan O'meara

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3774
Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #86 on: September 01, 2021, 11:44:14 PM »
I know that I'll regret asking this question, but why would the conspirators who are trying to frame Oswald for the crime provide him with a get away car to escape the crime scene?  And thus, risk being seen by someone (in fact that is exactly what you are claiming) and then have the added difficulty of planning an elaborate bus AND cab ride story to cover this inexplicable decision with all that entails (i.e. somehow knowing which bus and cab was in the area and convincing all the random folks on the bus not to blow the story and on and on).  Faking the bus and cab ride is very silly and risky for no apparent purpose.  Particularly for someone trying to frame Oswald rather than assist him.

I wonder how the hoaxers kept the bus company quiet about the fake transfer and how they kept the Yellow Cab Co. quiet about the fake manifest.

Online Dan O'meara

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3774
Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #87 on: September 01, 2021, 11:46:28 PM »
I wonder why the hoaxers didn't tell Whaley to say he dropped Oswald at his rooming house.

Offline Walt Cakebread

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7322
Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #88 on: September 01, 2021, 11:51:56 PM »
Whaley meant the man he saw from a distance would become his passenger. Geeze, you think the explanation was that Whaley could read what was on someone's else mind? Can't be you who's "intelligent and rational". Ever here tell of Occam's Razor?

From a distance, Whaley noticed Oswald was waking and behaving oddly. Wonder why Oswald caught his attention? Same thing might have caught Tippit's attention.

Whaley meant the man he saw from a distance would become his passenger. Geeze, you think the explanation was that Whaley could read what was on someone's else mind? Can't be you who's "intelligent and rational". Ever here tell of Occam's Razor?

Well Ok ,Mr Dufus.... Let's take another look at the Whaley tail.....  I'm sure that you'll agree that Whaley logged that he was at the Greyhound depot at 12:30, and he told the WC that he had decided to go into the bus station and buy a package of cigarettes  He not only logged the time of 12:30 but he told the WC that the time was 12:30.    I would agree that the time could have been anywhere between 12:25 and 12:35, But he said that he dropped the man at 500 N Beckley at 12:45  so the time couldn't have been much later than 12:35.   

Where was Lee Oswald at 12:32??   Isn't it true that DPD officer Baker vouched for Lee's  presence in the 2nd floor lunch room of the TSBD at 12:32.?    Now then..... please explain how Lee managed to get from the Lunchroom to the Bus depot in two or three minutes?


From a distance, Whaley noticed Oswald was waking and behaving oddly. Wonder why Oswald caught his attention? Same thing might have caught Tippit's attention.

Online John Mytton

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5119
Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #89 on: September 02, 2021, 12:03:27 AM »
Poor Johnny, missing the mark again big time.

And then got owned by Walt.

ROFL ---------->>>>>

Name of Witness: DUTTON Christian Names: James David       brown jacket
Name of Witness: KINGSTON Christian Names: Ian Gregory     green jacket
Name of Witness: BEEKMAN Christian Names: Michael Dean     ski type jacket, blue, orange and a few other colours on it
Name of Witness: WILLIAMS Christian Names: Colin Sydney    3/4 length jacket, dark in appearance
Name of Witness: WILLIAMS Christian Names: Iris Emelia     He had on a jacket of some description.
Name of Witness: SARGENT Christian Names: Michael Robert   blue jacket
Name of Witness: RIVIERE Christian Names: John Michael     “High length’ black jacket
Name of Witness: OLSON Christian Names: MARY LEE           I think was green
Name of Witness: LEVER Cristian Names: Coralee Helen       dark jacket
Name of Witness: NASH Christian Names: Carolyn Louise      khaki green jacket or parker type jacket
Name of Witness: BALASKO Christian Names: James            black jacket
Name of Witness: McKENNA Christian Names: Rebecca Kate     ski type jacket which was zipped all the way up. it was either navy, blue or grey.

I'm well aware of what I posted and I'm also well aware of what Officer Baker saw Oswald wearing and we know that this same man was identified by Truly as being Oswald.

Mr. BAKER - Well, it would be similar in color to it--I assume it was a jacket, it was hanging out.

Oswald's oversized brown shirt when hanging out looks very much like a Jacket.



And here's Oswald with his smirk all over his face and I'm sure that someone who's innocent would find a need to smirk and this is the guy you want to defend, shame on you both.





smirk
smile in an irritatingly smug, conceited, or silly way.
"he smirked in triumph"

smirk
​a silly and unpleasant smile that shows that you are pleased with yourself, know something that other people do not know, etc.
She had a self-satisfied smirk on her face.
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/smirk_2

The first impression that Whaley had when he saw Oswald walk slowly up to his the cab was that he was a wino, which strongly suggests that when Whaley saw Oswald his shirt was similarly hanging out like when Baker saw him.

Btw have you figured out how Oswald got to the rooming house yet? LOL!
« Last Edit: September 02, 2021, 12:13:09 AM by John Mytton »

Online John Mytton

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5119
Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #90 on: September 02, 2021, 12:12:25 AM »

Let's pretend.... 


Hilarious, that sums up how you approach this case with absolute perfection.  Thumb1:



JohnM