Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?

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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #378 on: September 22, 2021, 06:36:21 PM »
The claim is that there was no early roll call in which Mr Oswald emerged as the employee who was uniquely and suspiciously missing

The article was entitled "The roll call inside the TSBD never happened."
The claim is that there was no roll call, early or otherwise.
The article contains two witness statements referring to a roll call and a head count.

It is interesting that in Sorrel's testimony he specifically tasks Truly with getting the names of the employees together. Something Truly seems to have forgotten in his statements.

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #379 on: September 22, 2021, 06:48:44 PM »
"Buffoon? Tinfoil? Whatever. But heckling adds nothing to to the subject.That's exactly what the roll call fiasco claims...and exactly what I think.You supplied no corroboration...no Commission testimony from the building super. Because there is none.
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 Yet the defenders of the Report assert that afterwards, this cool calm and collected Lee spooked and cut out of the building in total panic escape mode.
Truly could have said that Oswald looked shaken and scared  [as was mentioned 'thrown under the bus']
You re-posted the Truly/Shelley affidavits...Did you read them?
In his testimony...Truly did not mention roll call, FBI, Secret Service or Forrest Sorrels concerning the date of the assassination. Isn't it possible that Sorrels' statement is just pure fiction? This guy was the SA in charge of the Dallas Secret Service and just covering his backside and he should have been fired on the spot for dereliction of duty. But we had a president at the time who chose to keep him around :-\
In response to the statement just made---there were others who reported seeing a man in a suit carrying a rifle.

"But heckling adds nothing to to the subject"

How much does this add to the subject - "Not everything [is an invention or a hoax]. Some things are an absolute lie."

"Isn't it possible that Sorrels' statement is just pure fiction"

What a shock.
Is there anything you don't consider to be an invention/hoax/fiction?


Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #380 on: September 22, 2021, 07:11:16 PM »
Later, in the same article Harold Norman, confirms there was some kind of head count:
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Q: …that worked there, they was making some kind of head count?
Norman: Right.
Q: Was that right?
Norman: Yes.
Obviously, in the cuckoo CT world a 'head count' is completely different to a 'roll call'
In the zeal to blast the skeptics is there any consideration that the Norman statement was 13 years afterwards? The Biffle statement was in 1982?..almost 20 years later?
How come Lee Oswald is the first name on this list of two pages that were supposedly made [for some reason] on that day by Jack Revill ? [it looks like]

 -- Thumb1: Right! A frame-up looks even here on all corners.
How come Oswald has a listed address as 605 Elsbeth? How did Revill know that Oswald had once lived there previously?
There was nothing more criminal than the Dallas Criminal Division.
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How much does this add to the subject - "Not everything [is an invention or a hoax]. Some things are an absolute lie."
Shetloads.
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Is there anything you don't consider to be an invention/hoax/fiction?
What a stupid question.
 And O'meara..if you don't like my posts then don't read them.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #381 on: September 22, 2021, 07:37:30 PM »
Obviously, in the cuckoo CT world a 'head count' is completely different to a 'roll call'In the zeal to blast the skeptics is there any consideration that the Norman statement was 13 years afterwards? The Biffle statement was in 1982?..almost 20 years later?
How come Lee Oswald is the first name on this list of two pages that were supposedly made [for some reason] on that day by Jack Revill ? [it looks like]

 -- Thumb1: Right! A frame-up looks even here on all corners.
How come Oswald has a listed address as 605 Elsbeth? How did Revill know that Oswald had once lived there previously?
There was nothing more criminal than the Dallas Criminal Division.Shetloads.What a stupid question.
 And O'meara..if you don't like my posts then don't read them.

in the cuckoo CT world a 'head count' is completely different to a 'roll call'I

Yes, as a matter of fact a head count is different than a roll call.....   The "head count" merely ascertains the number of individuals present....  Whereas a "roll call"  accounts for the person present, by calling his name.



This a list of the people who worked in the TSBD.....  I don't know the significance of the list, but it appears to be a list of people who Captain Gannaway wanted contacted for some reason.   ( probably Gannaway wanted to know if any of the employees were going to throw a monkey wrench into the plan to frame Lee Oswald.)

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #382 on: September 22, 2021, 08:34:53 PM »
Now---------------------Quiz Time!

All the people, EXCEPT ONE, on the list below either worked in the Texas School Book Depository or were in the building shortly after the assassination:





Question! Which name is the odd one out?

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Peggy Bigler Hawkins.

I assume this is a list of TSBD employees left in the building after it was locked down (so Oswald's name shouldn't be there)
It is curious that the names of Gloria Calvery, Carol Reed, Karan Hicks and Karen Westbrook don't appear on the list.

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #383 on: September 22, 2021, 09:19:37 PM »
I see nothing wrong with BWF picking up some pieces of silver for talking to reporters or whoever....but He doesn't need to keep adding the stupid stories of his involvement.....like the tale of the well dressed man with a rifle...   Frazier must think that he was the only person there when actually there were dozens of spectators standing around who would also have seen the man with the rifle.

Maybe some people did see the man with the rifle

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #384 on: September 22, 2021, 09:22:13 PM »
IF the LHO-on-Houston story has some basis in fact, then Mr Frazier may have encountered Mr Oswald there, got talking with him, told him he was leaving------------and agreed to give his friend a ride out of downtown

]IF the LHO-on-Houston story has some basis in fact,

I don't believe Frazier's tale.....   It's one of his latter day tales....And it's simply BS.

The fact that Mr Walt Cakebread doesn't believe X does not make X BS. Especially when Mr Cakebread believes plenty of things that are BS (e.g. Mr Oswald hid in the domino room shower!)