Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #266 on: September 16, 2021, 01:44:16 AM »
Really?

Whaley's affidavit is given the day after the assassination.
What's the big rush?

Right----------no pressure whatsoever on 11/22/63 or 11/23/63 to pin this thing on Mr Oswald and Mr Oswald alone. Is there no limit to your naivete, Mr O'Meara?

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Why do the authorities feel the need to establish his getaway by the next day?
The investigation has only just begun. They have Oswald in custody and have as much time as they need to establish his movements after the TSBD.
Do you really think the investigating authorities were concerned about the "specter of conspiracy" the day after the assassination??
There is no need to start faking cab rides when a few phone calls would've tracked down the real cab driver.

You are not thinking about this correctly at all.
Why the need to start faking things the day after the assassination?

They started faking things 11/22/63

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #267 on: September 16, 2021, 01:45:51 AM »
Here's the guy that they absolutely had to silence - to prevent him from exposing the plot. If he talked, that would be it. Those objects to the right of him are microphones. That big square thing on the top/center is a TV camera. It was broadcasting live. There are dozens of people in the room.

They could have allowed some "favored" reporters to talk to Oswald secretly. Orchestrate an interview. Keep it quiet in case he exposed the plot. But no, they did this. Yes, that's what conspirators would do.



Question! What happens as soon as Mr Oswald is told "You have been charged with that" and he looks shocked?

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #268 on: September 16, 2021, 01:47:52 AM »
I totally agree with your comment on Joe Molina saying that he never saw Baker enter the TSBD.   Perhaps Molina's attention was riveted on some other event at the time that Baker pushed his way into the TSBD, and therefore  Molina simply didn't see him.

So it was quite possible for folks not to notice a person's presence on those steps if their attention was riveted on some other event. Good to know!  Thumb1:

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #269 on: September 16, 2021, 01:51:24 AM »
So it was quite possible for folks not to notice a person's presence on those steps if their attention was riveted on some other event. Good to know!  Thumb1:

Yes, it's fortunate that we have films and photos that confirm Oswald was not on the steps but that Baker did enter the building in a run so that we do not have to rely upon recollections.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #270 on: September 16, 2021, 02:03:38 AM »
I realize logic plays no part in your fantasies but why did they plan to kill him at the TSBD or have Ruby kill him if he is not going to talk due to his status as "secret agent"?  He just keeps his mouth shut in prison like they trusted Ruby to do.  In fact, Ruby seems like a greater risk to blab than Oswald if Old Lee was a super duper secret agent in on the plan.

I realize logic plays no part in your fantasies but why did they plan to kill him at the TSBD or have Ruby kill him if he is not going to talk due to his status as "secret agent"?  He just keeps his mouth shut in prison like they trusted Ruby to do.  In fact, Ruby seems like a greater risk to blab than Oswald if Old Lee was a super duper secret agent in on the plan.

Duh...Mr "Smith"...  Usually the patsy is snuffed immediately so that he can reveal nothing about the plot...and a dead man has a real problem in identifying the perpetrators.  In this case it took them less than 48 hours to silence the sucker.  It was fortunate for the perpetrators that Lee was still naive  and trusting enough to think that the agency would pull his fat from the fire.

He just keeps his mouth shut in prison like they trusted Ruby to do. 

What utterly STUPID statement....  The perps didn't trust Jack Ruby to keep his mouth shut, that's why he was held incommunicado in the City Jail...and was not transfer to Huntsville Prison....

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #271 on: September 16, 2021, 02:08:06 AM »
Yes, it's fortunate that we have films and photos that confirm Oswald was not on the steps but that Baker did enter the building in a run so that we do not have to rely upon recollections.

Oh, so you know who Prayer Man is, Mr Smith? This is exciting---------------do tell!  Thumb1:

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Why are the CT's so obsessed with disproving the innocent Bus and Cab rides?
« Reply #272 on: September 16, 2021, 02:17:46 AM »
Right----------no pressure whatsoever on 11/22/63 or 11/23/63 to pin this thing on Mr Oswald and Mr Oswald alone. Is there no limit to your naivete, Mr O'Meara?

They started faking things 11/22/63

How is faking a cab ride pinning it on Oswald??
Talk about naive!
As far as the investigating authorities were concerned they had Oswald, they had his rifle on the 6th floor, a photo of him with the rifle, the fake ID that bought the rifle.
And you think they needed to fake a cab ride to get it over the line??
You're very silly sometimes.