Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?

[John Mytton]

Still struggling with the Whaley timeline?

ROFL

Still struggling with the Whaley timeline?

Oh my goodness, you'd literally say or do anything to change the subject but sorry Otto your infinite attempts at diversion only show your desperation. Try again!

ROFL

Your last gasps by using a tedious overused acronym, just reinforces your failure.

Btw you're not very good at this.

JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

Is there any clipboard in evidence at all?

[John Iacoletti]

Or whether a CTer just repeating nonsensically over and over that he made "other" clipboards and presumably did not know the difference (again contrary to Kaiser's direct testimony) interjects doubt.

Hilarious coming from a guy who rejects Frazier's direct testimony that the CE142 wrapper is too long and the wrong paper to be the one he saw Oswald carry.

But we're supposed to believe this story about the clipboard because Kaiser said so.

[Zeon Mason]

One of these days, maybe some new info will emerge that makes it plausible that the MC rifle was post event planted or switched for another rifle found.

The best I’ve been able to speculate is possible window of opportunity of an MC rifle found at Oswalds boarding room at 1:30 pm and it being immediately transported to the TSBD and up to 6th floor and placed or swapped at the boxes closest to staircase by 1:40pm.

This based on Tom Aleya statements referring to Lt. Day not arriving on the 6th floor until 18 minutes AFTER the “Mauser” rifle was discovered by Boone and Wietzman at 1:22 pm.

Otherwise it would have to be pre planted and that’s a problem also as to why would a rifle be planted with unusable scope and corrosion.

Besides Walt Cakebreads theory of an elaborate hoax to fool Oswald, the only other theory offered  Is that Oswald did have an MC rifle and had recently moved it from Paines garage ( leaving behind in the garage a flat blanket roiled up with strings still tied around it) in Oct. 63.


Someone knew of that and the set up of Oswald begins by luring him away from the boarding house to visit his wife on Thursday , with a false message phone call that Marina wished to reconcile their marriage.

So the reason for a rifle to have misaligned and malfunction scope and corrosion in barrel, was possibly because conspirator thief was unaware of the scope problem nor of the corrosion in the barrel,

I’ve also considered Walts theory could be partly correct in that the rifle WAS preplanted but for another reason such as the conspirators are fellow ex CIA of which Oswald may have at one time been involved with ( Sylvia Odeo and Loran Hall etc?).

[Walt Cakebread]

One of these days, maybe some new info will emerge that makes it plausible that the MC rifle was post event planted or switched for another rifle found.

The best I’ve been able to speculate is possible window of opportunity of an MC rifle found at Oswalds boarding room at 1:30 pm and it being immediately transported to the TSBD and up to 6th floor and placed or swapped at the boxes closest to staircase by 1:40pm.

This based on Tom Aleya statements referring to Lt. Day not arriving on the 6th floor until 18 minutes AFTER the “Mauser” rifle was discovered by Boone and Wietzman at 1:22 pm.

Otherwise it would have to be pre planted and that’s a problem also as to why would a rifle be planted with unusable scope and corrosion.

Besides Walt Cakebreads theory of an elaborate hoax to fool Oswald, the only other theory offered  Is that Oswald did have an MC rifle and had recently moved it from Paines garage ( leaving behind in the garage a flat blanket roiled up with strings still tied around it) in Oct. 63.


Someone knew of that and the set up of Oswald begins by luring him away from the boarding house to visit his wife on Thursday , with a false message phone call that Marina wished to reconcile their marriage.

So the reason for a rifle to have misaligned and malfunction scope and corrosion in barrel, was possibly because conspirator thief was unaware of the scope problem nor of the corrosion in the barrel,

I’ve also considered Walts theory could be partly correct in that the rifle WAS preplanted but for another reason such as the conspirators are fellow ex CIA of which Oswald may have at one time been involved with ( Sylvia Odeo and Loran Hall etc?).

Besides Walt Cakebreads theory of an elaborate hoax to fool Oswald,

There was no elaborate hoax to fool Oswald.....  Lee Oswald was playing in the play on stage 1.... While the conspirators were performing an entirely different play on stage two ....

Lee thought that he was participating in a hoax attempt to shoot JFK.    While the Killer's were preparing to murder JFK.   The conspirators had convinced Lee that Castro would welcome him to Cuba if it appeared that he had tried to shoot JFK.  ( Castro had publicly threatened JFK) Thus Lee played right into their hands and participated in setting the stage to make it appear as though he had fired at JFK.    All of the "evidence" found in the TSBD was nothing but stage props....The two spent shells ... the carcano with the scope mounted askew  ....Stage props .....The carcano was not the murder weapon, it was not fired that day. ( it had rust and dirt in the barrel which the FBI had cleaned prior to their testing. )

[Zeon Mason]

Walt, since you mention “stage prop”, what’s your explanation for a brass clip supposedly having been highlighted in frames of Alyea film to “prove” a clip was in the MC rifle, yet in the famous photo of Lt. Day carrying the MC rifle outside of TSBD, the clip that’s pointed out as partly slipping out has become SOLID BLACK!?

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt, since you mention “stage prop”, what’s your explanation for a brass clip supposedly having been highlighted in frames of Alyea film to “prove” a clip was in the MC rifle, yet in the famous photo of Lt. Day carrying the MC rifle outside of TSBD, the clip that’s pointed out as partly slipping out has become SOLID BLACK!?

The brass clip can be seen in the Alyea footage of Detective Day dusting the rifle looking for prints,  in front of the SUNLIT window  That same brass clip can be seen protruding from the magazine as detective Day carries the carcano out of the TSBD.   

FYI....The brass clips work well in the carcano and rarely do they stick in the magazine , because the brass  is heavier and less "sticky" than the steel clips.   I don't know what you're looking at, but the clip in the rifle that Day is carrying is NOT black.