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Online John Mytton

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #91 on: August 10, 2021, 03:40:30 AM »
Well I think they did a beautiful job if Oswald was indeed a patsy Set up a cover story that he was a communist who hated JFK when he was basically a low level agent of some sort I am not trying to be sarcastic or patronizing, if that was true it was a great job I cannot think of anything much to improve on it

 Killing him however, I believe was a mistake Maybe a plan like this had to have had that eventuality if he knew a little too much

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Set up a cover story that he was a communist who hated JFK

Except there is no evidence that Oswald hated Kennedy.

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when he was basically a low level agent of some sort

Why setup a man who has direct links to your own organisation?

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Killing him however, I believe was a mistake

Being devils advocate here but if Oswald was a "patsy" with absolutely no knowledge then perhaps you're right but even if Oswald had the slightest inkling wouldn't killing him be the perfect answer because a dead man tells no tales?

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #92 on: August 10, 2021, 04:05:23 AM »
Except there is no evidence that Oswald hated Kennedy.

 Well then perhaps they should have done a better jo on that score I think the american public believed he did based on his supposed views

Why setup a man who has direct links to your own organisation?

 To get him to do things you want him to do Bring a rifle to work etc


Being devils advocate here but if Oswald was a "patsy" with absolutely no knowledge then perhaps you're right but even if Oswald had the slightest inkling wouldn't killing him be the perfect answer because a dead man tells no tales?

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  Yes As I stated it was a good strategy unless you cared about the fact a good percentage of the american public would not go for it

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #93 on: August 10, 2021, 04:16:30 PM »
Except there is no evidence that Oswald hated Kennedy.

Why setup a man who has direct links to your own organisation?

Being devils advocate here but if Oswald was a "patsy" with absolutely no knowledge then perhaps you're right but even if Oswald had the slightest inkling wouldn't killing him be the perfect answer because a dead man tells no tales?

JohnM

there is no evidence that Oswald hated Kennedy.

Do you think the act of blowing JFK's brains out was an act of love and admiration?   Or do you acknowledge the obvious ...That whoever murdered JFK despised him....   

It's been obvious since 12:30 11/ 22/ 63 that whoever was responsible for blowing JFK's brains out did not love or admire him...   

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #94 on: August 10, 2021, 04:28:18 PM »
there is no evidence that Oswald hated Kennedy.

Do you think the act of blowing JFK's brains out was an act of love and admiration?   Or do you acknowledge the obvious ...That whoever murdered JFK despised him....   

It's been obvious since 12:30 11/ 22/ 63 that whoever was responsible for blowing JFK's brains out did not love or admire him...

Shooting the president is not the act of a rational person.  Thus, the lack of any rational motive doesn't raise doubt as to guilt of the assassin.  And Oswald's motive can only be known to himself.  So it's the old impossible standard of proof trick being applied to raise false doubt.  The evidence confirms that Oswald did it.  Why is something that we have some insight based on what we know about him but just because no one can ever confirm his motive with scientific precision is not the basis for any doubt of his guilt.   I don't believe that Oswald had any personal animosity for JFK.  Rather, JFK was a symbol, as the President, of a system that Oswald detested.  He would have shot Nixon, LBJ, or whomever drove down Elm that day as the President.  Opportunity knocked for a nut job with a penchant for political assassination.

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #95 on: August 10, 2021, 07:51:12 PM »
Shooting the president is not the act of a rational person.  Thus, the lack of any rational motive doesn't raise doubt as to guilt of the assassin.  And Oswald's motive can only be known to himself.  So it's the old impossible standard of proof trick being applied to raise false doubt.  The evidence confirms that Oswald did it.  Why is something that we have some insight based on what we know about him but just because no one can ever confirm his motive with scientific precision is not the basis for any doubt of his guilt.   I don't believe that Oswald had any personal animosity for JFK.  Rather, JFK was a symbol, as the President, of a system that Oswald detested.  He would have shot Nixon, LBJ, or whomever drove down Elm that day as the President.  Opportunity knocked for a nut job with a penchant for political assassination.

Complete and utter BS!......   Most rational people recognize the  murder of President Kennedy as the act of a person who despised him.....     And as Mr M stated.....   LHO did not hate JFK.

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #96 on: August 10, 2021, 08:17:02 PM »
Shooting the president is not the act of a rational person.  Thus, the lack of any rational motive doesn't raise doubt as to guilt of the assassin.  And Oswald's motive can only be known to himself.  So it's the old impossible standard of proof trick being applied to raise false doubt.  The evidence confirms that Oswald did it.  Why is something that we have some insight based on what we know about him but just because no one can ever confirm his motive with scientific precision is not the basis for any doubt of his guilt.   I don't believe that Oswald had any personal animosity for JFK.  Rather, JFK was a symbol, as the President, of a system that Oswald detested.  He would have shot Nixon, LBJ, or whomever drove down Elm that day as the President.  Opportunity knocked for a nut job with a penchant for political assassination.

Shooting the president is not the act of a rational person.     

 I agree.......And there are many accounts that reveal that LBJ was not rational.... But there are no accounts that reveal that Lee Oswald was not a rational person.    Question:.... Did Lee stand tall and crow to the whole wide world that he had assassinated President Kennedy?    If he was a nut....and he had shot JFK, .he most certainly would have proclaimed his prowess to the whole wide world.

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #97 on: August 10, 2021, 11:32:00 PM »
Complete and utter BS!......   Most rational people recognize the  murder of President Kennedy as the act of a person who despised him.....     And as Mr M stated.....   LHO did not hate JFK.

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And as Mr M stated.....   LHO did not hate JFK.

I stated nothing of the kind, what I said was "Except there is no evidence that Oswald hated Kennedy." We can't possibly know what was going on inside Oswald's head but even if Oswald did hate Kennedy and that's what motivated him, then that alone is not enough to convict Oswald but the mountain of evidence is certainly persuasive. *wink*
This is why you make so many mistakes, you want to fill in the blanks with your own overactive imagination much to the detriment of the point you're trying to make.

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