Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2021, 07:04:39 PM »
'Three shots in less than seven seconds'
> Two shots in 8.3 seconds.

The clock starts after the first shot

0:00 BOOM>click-click
?:??  BOOM>click-click
8:03  BOOM>click-click


Let's try to stick to the FACTS.....on page 117 of your bible  ( the WR)  LBJ's "Special Select Hand Picked Committee of venerated, and honorable men"  acknowledged that the witnesses at the scene estimated that the shots were fired in "5 to 6 seconds"......

on page 117 of your bible  ( the WR)  LBJ's "Special Select Hand Picked Committee of venerated, and honorable men" concluded that the "three shots were fired in a time period ranging from approximately  4.8 to in excess of 7 seconds"

Your "honorable men" couldn't even stick to the witnesses testimonies ......( 5 to 6 seconds) ...those "honorable men" felt they had to distort the facts by claiming the the period was from "4.8 to in excess of 7 seconds" .....

And now you're attempting to stretch the truth even more.......  Now let's knock off the lying,,,,, The witnesses said the shots were fied in 5 or 6 seconds....  And the Carcano could NOT have performed that feat.....


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2021, 03:23:28 PM »

Let's try to stick to the FACTS.....on page 117 of your bible  ( the WR)  LBJ's "Special Select Hand Picked Committee of venerated, and honorable men"  acknowledged that the witnesses at the scene estimated that the shots were fired in "5 to 6 seconds"......

on page 117 of your bible  ( the WR)  LBJ's "Special Select Hand Picked Committee of venerated, and honorable men" concluded that the "three shots were fired in a time period ranging from approximately  4.8 to in excess of 7 seconds"

Your "honorable men" couldn't even stick to the witnesses testimonies ......( 5 to 6 seconds) ...those "honorable men" felt they had to distort the facts by claiming the the period was from "4.8 to in excess of 7 seconds" .....

And now you're attempting to stretch the truth even more.......  Now let's knock off the lying,,,,, The witnesses said the shots were fied in 5 or 6 seconds....  And the Carcano could NOT have performed that feat.....

It comes down to acquiring 'feel' for the bolt action of the Carcano, and the fact that Oswald had no pressure to meet a pre-set firing sequence. Asking testers to instantly overcome those hurdles is tantamount to asking a tennis player to suddenly use somebody else's racquet at match point.

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2021, 04:34:06 PM »
It comes down to acquiring 'feel' for the bolt action of the Carcano, and the fact that Oswald had no pressure to meet a pre-set firing sequence. Asking testers to instantly overcome those hurdles is tantamount to asking a tennis player to suddenly use somebody else's racquet at match point.
It's been shown multiple times that you can easily fire two shots with a Carcano rifle in 5-6 seconds. The "clock" doesn't "start" until the first shot is fired. Then the shooter has 5-6 seconds to fire two additional shots. It's not three shots in 5-6 seconds; it's two shots AFTER the first in 5-6 seconds.

In any case, the Zapruder film shows that two shots were fired in five seconds. One was at roughly Z-223 and a second at Z-313. That's 90 frames or five seconds. And the entire shooting sequence - depending on the first shot - took around 8-9 seconds. So 8-9 seconds for two shots. So those earwitnesses who estimated that the entire sequence took 4-6 seconds are very likely wrong.



« Last Edit: July 29, 2021, 05:47:02 PM by Steve M. Galbraith »

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2021, 07:22:16 PM »
It comes down to acquiring 'feel' for the bolt action of the Carcano, and the fact that Oswald had no pressure to meet a pre-set firing sequence. Asking testers to instantly overcome those hurdles is tantamount to asking a tennis player to suddenly use somebody else's racquet at match point.

It comes down to acquiring 'feel' for the bolt action of the Carcano,

Utter nonsense from someone who clearly has never fired a carcano......

Even an expert rifleman could not acquire a "feel" for the cranky carcano......   Because the carcano was not designed to be a rapid fire sniper rifle.

The carcano is designed to compress the firing pin spring on the extraction stroke ( up stroke of the bolt handle) and this cumbersome action ALWAYS causes the sights to be pulled off target , which requires the shooter to reacquire the target and realign the sights on target.  ( this action requires several seconds )   There is NO WAY to acquire a "feel" for this balky action and sloppy trigger)

But even if the rifle had been modified to cock on the closing stroke.....and then "maybe? " the rifle could have fired three rounds in 6 seconds....the shooter still would not have been able to hit the target because the scope was mounted askew......
« Last Edit: July 30, 2021, 07:27:09 PM by Walt Cakebread »

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2021, 08:41:16 PM »
The only way witnesses could accurately gauge the time span of three shots would be if they have recently spent considerable time at a shooting range where they observed hundreds of random three-shot firings and heard their announced time spans.

The HSCA testers hit 1.6 sec for two shots. Twice.

I gauge time between actions by using 'one steamboat', two steamboat, three steamboat... each takes one second
Way better than guessing.

But Murray(?) Couch, riding in a press vehicle and experienced with bolt-action rifles apparently, said the time between the second and third shots  sounded about right (2.5 seconds)
« Last Edit: July 29, 2021, 09:07:26 PM by Bill Chapman »

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #40 on: July 29, 2021, 08:49:40 PM »
The word I was trying to use starts with an f, then an l, then an a, then an s, and lastly a k. It isn’t a swear word at all. Whatever parameters that are programmed into the software to identify swear words is not completely accurate. That’s the point I was making.

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Re: Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?
« Reply #41 on: July 29, 2021, 09:22:52 PM »

Let's try to stick to the FACTS.....on page 117 of your bible  ( the WR)  LBJ's "Special Select Hand Picked Committee of venerated, and honorable men"  acknowledged that the witnesses at the scene estimated that the shots were fired in "5 to 6 seconds"......

on page 117 of your bible  ( the WR)  LBJ's "Special Select Hand Picked Committee of venerated, and honorable men" concluded that the "three shots were fired in a time period ranging from approximately  4.8 to in excess of 7 seconds"

Your "honorable men" couldn't even stick to the witnesses testimonies ......( 5 to 6 seconds) ...those "honorable men" felt they had to distort the facts by claiming the the period was from "4.8 to in excess of 7 seconds" .....

And now you're attempting to stretch the truth even more.......  Now let's knock off the lying,,,,, The witnesses said the shots were fied in 5 or 6 seconds....  And the Carcano could NOT have performed that feat.....

Oswald proved you wrong