Ct's firstly ask yourself, where does my theory go?

[Charles Collins]

Day was a complete ignoramus about the carcano.....  He initially referred to it as a "lever action" when any elementary school boy could have informed him that the rifle was a bolt action type rifle.    I seriously doubt that he knew that the bayonet lug was removable.....Just as neither you nor Jerry knew the lug was removable.

So you believe that detective Day tapped the bayonet lug off the barrel when there was no need to do so.   He allegedly  saw the print on the barrel, so what reason would he have to remove the bayonet lug?     

This nonsense just keeps getting sillier and sillier......

The barrel is tapered and the outside diameter is smaller on the muzzle end. Chances are that Day didn’t need to tap it to move it towards the muzzle end to move it.

[Bill Chapman]

 Walk:I

I think we know the ignoramus when it comes to the Carcano and the discovery location.

Gee. You'll think a search for Carl Day and "lever action" would turn up something.

I think if we had a Carcano M91/38 Short Rifle in front of us, Charles or I would have noticed the bayonet lug moved a bit when the bolt retaining it was pulled through it. It's something else entirely when someone knows the lug is moveable, are in a "discussion" about the lug and keeps that tidbit to himself.

What's silly is you turning our slid the lug along the barrel a little way into... "tapped the bayonet lug off".

The handle that opens the bolt action is used as a lever of sorts. Leave it to a high school drop-out like OddWalt to engage in the veritable minutiae-madness CTers/JAQers/OAKers are so dependant upon.

[John Mytton]

I think if we had a Carcano M91/38 Short Rifle in front of us, Charles or I would have noticed the bayonet lug moved a bit when the bolt retaining it was pulled through it. It's something else entirely when someone knows the lug is moveable, are in a "discussion" about the lug and keeps that tidbit to himself.

You hit the nail on the head and this highlights the main different between a LNer and a CT, a LNer wants all the facts so as to create a coherent whole and will go where ever the evidence leads, whereas CT's will hide or manipulate the facts and basically will sink to any depth to erroneously win an argument, but at what cost?

JohnM

[Charles Collins]

I ran across this photo which shows more clearly that the two edges which contact the underside of the barrel are rough. It appears to me that there are teeth intentionally made into the edges. These teeth are slanted such that they would grip the underside of the barrel when the lug is pushed back towards the bolt, and would release very easily when it is pushed toward the muzzle end of the barrel. Also, take another look at the two lines on the lift done by Day. They look to me like impressions left on the underside of the barrel by similar teeth could have formed them. (Where's a forensic dentist when we need one?   )




At any rate, this seals the deal for me. There is no mystery of the two lines anymore for me.

[Walt Cakebread]

I ran across this photo which shows more clearly that the two edges which contact the underside of the barrel are rough. It appears to me that there are teeth intentionally made into the edges. These teeth are slanted such that they would grip the underside of the barrel when the lug is pushed back towards the bolt, and would release very easily when it is pushed toward the muzzle end of the barrel. Also, take another look at the two lines on the lift done by Day. They look to me like impressions left on the underside of the barrel by similar teeth could have formed them. (Where's a forensic dentist when we need one?   )




At any rate, this seals the deal for me. There is no mystery of the two lines anymore for me.

What is the distance between the forward edge ( toward the muzzle)  of the  "palm print" and the rear ( toward the trigger housing ) of the two parallel lines?   

[Charles Collins]

What is the distance between the forward edge ( toward the muzzle)  of the  "palm print" and the rear ( toward the trigger housing ) of the two parallel lines?

That is difficult to say with any precision. A rough estimate, based on how my eyes see it, would be in the neighborhood of 1”. Why do you ask?

[Walt Cakebread]

That is difficult to say with any precision. A rough estimate, based on how my eyes see it, would be in the neighborhood of 1”. Why do you ask?

I would like a specific distance.....From the forward edge of the "palm print to the rear of the bayonet lug..... The distance doesn't need to be precise. Plus or minus 1/8 inch will do........

In your above estimate the distance would be 7/8 " ---- 1 1/8 "