Should the TSBD be demolished?

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Caro is often highly critical of LBJ.  He is the foremost expert on the topic and has spent decades researching his books.  If there is any "myth" in this context it is JFK's "Camelot."  JFK accomplished very little.  Certainly nothing of importance with Civil Rights.  Rather than the shining prince of white liberal elitist lore, JFK was an entitled lightweight with a well documented record of adultery, drug use, and undisclosed serious medical condition that he lied to the public about while running for office.  More Harvey Weinstein than King Arthur.

Caro says he "detests" and "loathes" LBJ for his appalling behavior and dishonesty. And he documents much of this behavior in his earlier volumes; the horrible mistreatment of "Bird", the dishonesty (LBJ's fellow college friends called him "Lying Lyndon") and more. In fact, Caro says that the LBJ family stopped responding to his requests for interviews because they were angry at his portrayal of LBJ.

My guess is that his next book will document the duplicity and corruption of LBJ during the Vietnam War. Anyone who thinks Caro is mythologizing LBJ hasn't read his books.

LBJ's a difficult man to understand. He was so awful, so mean spirited and deceitful. How could someone like that be so right when it came to civil rights and racial justice? People need to say "He was awful" and all of his work for civil rights was for personal gain. And nothing more. But that's simply not true. Caro shows this. So does Dallek, So do other historians.

People can reject all of this documentation if they want to. Or need to.

As for your JFK comments: in his defense he always was dealing with crises; the historian Richard Reeves called it a "crisis Presidency". Some were his fault, some beyond his control. So he really had little time to deal with his domestic agenda, either civil rights or Medicare or the tax cuts. And it took someone like an LBJ, who knew how to get legislation around the various "fiefdoms" that powerful Congressman held, to push it through.

[Bill Chapman]

Would like to see your location under your name.

C'mon, Jerry.. you're not being totally Canadian with your location
Halifax, Nova Scotia > should be > Halifax, Nova Scotia, eh?

I won't go any further than 'Canada, eh?'
Maybe these characters could narrow theirs down to which solar system, at least..

[Bill Chapman]

"The governing political party(s) by political
position in each Canadian province." (Wikipedia)

Here's the "socialist utopia" they seem to think Canada is, as shown by provincial  governments (the US equivalent to provinces are states; provinces share co-sovereignty with the federal government). The one "left-wing" province (orange color) is British Columbia, with the NDP who won last year (the last time they previously won a majority government was in 1991).

Of the four major political parties in national politics, three are conservative or have conservative economic policies. The one "left-wing" party usually comes in third and is more a pro-union party. There have been in the past several small extreme-right federal parties, the current one being the People's Party of Canada.

I'm Canadian, btw.. no need to explain to me what provinces are..

[Mark A. Oblazney]

This is a very frightening and disturbing post.  You are arguing that Babbitt's political view somehow justified her killing.  The classic victim blaming.  Imagine if that standard were applied to Floyd.  There were hundreds or thousands who entered the Capitol with similar views.  Her situation was not singular.  She was unarmed.  Again, do you think all the protestors should have been killed that day?  It's a simple question.

This whole thing was like a bank robbery.  But it wasn't for money, honey.  Where was her flack jacket?  She was such a toad.

[Gerry Down]

This whole thing was like a bank robbery.  But it wasn't for money, honey.  Where was her flack jacket?  She was such a toad.

You're probably one of those people who supports a woman's right to choose, unless she chooses to be conservative, in which case she should be shot.

[Jerry Freeman]

Babbitt was trying to overthrow the US government? Using what, her bare hands?

No. Apparently, she had a whip [to make the cops submit to her will!] also, her friends had brought weapons of mess destruction.

[Jerry Freeman]

It must have been back in the 80s or so. I can't find any link. Anyway, some Dallas city counsel guy said that he thinks the TSBD [which had fallen into disuse] should be torn down because he thought that it was a "shrine to Oswald". His idea [obviously] got no support.
Today it is a rip off 6th floor museum and county offices.