DPD Tapes and a 6 Minute Discrepancy

[Bill Brown]

George and Patricia Nash saw it and they said the call was logged at 1:18.

Learn the case.

A lot of people said they saw a lot of things.  Where's the card?

Are you going to join Weidmann and state as a fact that the Nashes did NOT see the time card?

I don't know what the Nashes saw, but I do know anyone can claim that they saw anything.

You're much wiser than Weidmann.

[Martin Weidmann]

Consider the phrase 'He put the slip into the time clock and stamped it 1:18 p.m., November 22, in the space marked “Time Called.”' Calling out a specific field on the card, to the point of putting that field's name in quotation marks, strongly implies that the Nashes saw the actual card and are describing what they saw on it. Ditto for the fact that they also explicitly quoted the location ("501 East 10th Street") and call code ("3-19").

Then there is this sentence in the next paragraph: "The record shows that Butler called in to the funeral home at 1:26 p.m. to say he had reached the hospital." "The record" indicates that the Nashes  saw it written down. 1:26 ambulance arrival isn't anywhere in the DPD records that I know of. Nor does it appear in the Channel One recordings, so the only record left was what Dudley Hughes kept. And the obvious place that would appear in on the call sheet.

Consider the phrase 'He put the slip into the time clock and stamped it 1:18 p.m., November 22, in the space marked “Time Called.”' Calling out a specific field on the card, to the point of putting that field's name in quotation marks, strongly implies that the Nashes saw the actual card and are describing what they saw on it.

It only implies that to you, because that's what you want it to imply.

Does this part: 'He put the slip into the time clock and stamped it 1:18 p.m., November 22, also imply that they saw him put the slip in the time clock?

Whatever you think something implies does not provide credible evidence. At best it provides an opinion.

Then there is this sentence in the next paragraph: "The record shows that Butler called in to the funeral home at 1:26 p.m. to say he had reached the hospital." "The record" indicates that the Nashes  saw it written down. 1:26 ambulance arrival isn't anywhere in the DPD records that I know of. Nor does it appear in the Channel One recordings, so the only record left was what Dudley Hughes kept. And the obvious place that would appear in on the call sheet.

Consider this; according to the DPD transcripts the ambulance was called at 1:18 and Butler, the driver, is on record saying that from the departure at the funeral home to the arrival at the ambulance took less than four minutes. So, even if the 1:18 call is correct (which it isn't) the ambulance would have arrived at the hospital at 1:22, which makes a time of 1:26 not only not correct but impossible.

All of this could have been resolved by the investigators by collecting the original time stamped card from the funeral home and put it into evidence. This never happened, despite the fact that FBI agents, were talking to staff of the hospital and funeral home and producing FD 302 reports (which were later altered again). The time card is gone. It was never produced and I bet it doesn't even exists.

But even if it does and even if it said the call was received at 1:18, how do you know the clock of the funeral home was correct, when at the same time LNs are claiming that just about every other time piece, involved in this case, was wrong?

[Bill Brown]

Consider the phrase 'He put the slip into the time clock and stamped it 1:18 p.m., November 22, in the space marked “Time Called.”' Calling out a specific field on the card, to the point of putting that field's name in quotation marks, strongly implies that the Nashes saw the actual card and are describing what they saw on it. Ditto for the fact that they also explicitly quoted the location ("501 East 10th Street") and call code ("3-19").

Then there is this sentence in the next paragraph: "The record shows that Butler called in to the funeral home at 1:26 p.m. to say he had reached the hospital." "The record" indicates that the Nashes  saw it written down. 1:26 ambulance arrival isn't anywhere in the DPD records that I know of. Nor does it appear in the Channel One recordings, so the only record left was what Dudley Hughes kept. And the obvious place that would appear in on the call sheet.

Mitch, great post, but you're using way too much common sense for these guys to understand your point.

[Martin Weidmann]

You're much wiser than Weidmann.

Still smoke and mirrors to divert attention away from your bogus claim that the Nashes saw the card.

Now produce the proof that the Nashes actually saw the card...... Oh wait, you can't.....

[Martin Weidmann]

Mitch, great post, but you're using way too much common sense for these guys to understand your point.

Only the weak and feeble claim that their own argument is so strong that others can not understand it. Kinda sad, really...

An appeal to common sense is only used by people who can not produce the evidence to support their silly claims.

And, of course, there is still not a shred of evidence presented that the Nashes actually saw the time stamped card.

[Bill Brown]

Now produce the proof that the Nashes actually saw the card...... Oh wait, you can't.....

Butler statement (HSCA, 1977).  He made a copy of the trip ticket and it was given to George and Patricia Nash in 1964.

Sent to me from Dale Myers:

[Martin Weidmann]

Butler statement (HSCA, 1977).  He made a copy of the trip ticket and it was given to George and Patricia Nash in 1964.

Sent to me from Dale Myers:

Wow, that's solid evidence.....Hahahahahaha!

For crying out loud, you've got the ambulance driver allegedly giving a "trip ticket" (whatever that is) to some unknown people, when the Nashes, in their 1964 article, do not mention anything of this and simply write;

The Dudley M. Hughes Funeral Home is the central ambulance dispatching point for southern Dallas. It either handles calls directly or calls other funeral homes in the system that cover other areas. Dudley M. Hughes Jr., the dispatcher, took the call from the police. He filled out an ambulance call slip with the code “3-19” (which means emergency shooting) and the address, “501 East 10th Street.” He put the slip into the time clock and stamped it 1:18 p.m., November 22, in the space marked “Time Called.”

But let's say, for the sake of argument, that Butler did give a copy of the time stamped slip to the Nashes. Where is it? Butler can't provide a copy, the Nashes never provided a copy and the Funeral Home hasn't produced the original or a copy either...

Just how far removed of reality do you need to be to attach any value to this crap?

Bottom line; the alleged time stamped slip is not part of the evidence and hasn't been produced for more than half a decade. Isn't it about time that you try to return to reality?