Will Pres. Biden release the JFK Files?

[Bill Chapman]

There certainly could be individuals who need to be protected. At some point, they will be gone and that will not be a valid reason. But "methods" could remain a valid reason indefinitely. In that case, I propose that they name an individual (such as Morley or whomever) to represent  the conspiracy people. This person would work with the CIA and be allowed to see the files. They would, of course, have to sign an agreement not to disclose verbatim what is there under penalty of prosecution.

This person would be well-versed on the major issues surrounding Joannides, Phillips and Angleton and any other areas. They would study the files and prepare a report (that the CIA would clear) that could be released that would answer as many questions as would be allowable. I understand this is not a perfect solution, but it is better than nothing and may be the only way to partially resolve the issue. Just my 2 cents.

Just my 2 cents
And a penny for your thoughts. Now, who gets the extra penny?*

At some point, they will be gone and that will not be a valid reason.
I read that the protection extended to descendants


*Cite: Steven Wright

[W. Tracy Parnell]

I read that the protection extended to descendants

That may be true. If so, my idea becomes even more relevant. BTW, Morley will never do it since this would prevent him from making baseless claims.

[Steve M. Galbraith]

That may be true. If so, my idea becomes even more relevant. BTW, Morley will never do it since this would prevent him from making baseless claims.

For Morley this is all about Joannides. I don't think he's promoting it for any other reason. From there he wants to connect things directly to Counter Intelligence and specifically Angleton. And then to a anti-FPCC operation that used/manipulated Oswald.

As to baseless claims: that's an understatement. He once said - but withdrew it later - that Angleton should have been charged with "criminal negligence" for his failure to tell the Secret Service about the threat that Oswald posed to JFK. C'mon, that's silly.

[Jon Banks]

This so-called "deep state" never assassinated a single foreign leader. Not one.

Did they try? Yes but they - the CIA - were ordered or directed to do so by presidents. Castro most notably. Eisenhower reportedly approved a plan to assassinate Lumumba but the plan was not carried out and he was murdered by others.

I'm not going to defend the truly awful things done by the CIA during the Cold War. But almost all of it was done under directions by the president or with their knowledge. This wasn't a "rogue agency" acting on its own. And to argue from "the CIA tried to kill Castro therefore they killed JFK" is such a reach that it's remarkable that anyone tries to make it. Killing a foreign dictator is completely different than killing your own leader. That should be obvious.

The CIA in the era of Dulles and Helms almost certainly went rogue a number of times. I'll grant you that the CIA today is more bureaucratic and less inclined to "go rogue" than in the 50s and 60s but there are reasons to think that some employees at the CIA went rogue against President Trump.

President Truman disagreed that the CIA wasn't a rogue agency and called for them to be reined in after JFK was killed.

President Eisenhower warned about the Military Industrial Complex

President Reagan I believe really had no idea what was going on during Iran-Contra. His VP, George HW Bush, likely knew more about Iran-Contra because he had a more intimate relationship with the CIA.

I would define the "Deep State" as a combination of High-Ranking NatSec people, Defense Industry people, some members of the Press, and wealthy oligarchs like Rupert Murdoch and George Soros for example.

To me, the 'Deep State' is just a group of unelected elites who are able to manipulate and influence policy decisions related to national security and foreign policy without being held accountable. I do believe that sort of Power Elite exists within the US and began sometime in the early 20th century (predating the creation of the CIA).

[Jon Banks]

For Morley this is all about Joannides. I don't think he's promoting it for any other reason. From there he wants to connect things directly to Counter Intelligence and specifically Angleton. And then to a anti-FPCC operation that used/manipulated Oswald.

As to baseless claims: that's an understatement. He once said - but withdrew it later - that Angleton should have been charged with "criminal negligence" for his failure to tell the Secret Service about the threat that Oswald posed to JFK. C'mon, that's silly.

Morley seems to be onto something with Joannides, who was the CIA's liason for the HSCA.

Why would they choose him as the liason without disclosing his connection to the DRE? That seems rogue.

Also, the CIA confirmed that Joannides had a second home in New Orleans but hasn't disclosed the specific dates that he lived there or visited New Orleans in 1963.

https://jfkfacts.org/cia-admits-joannides-had-a-residence-in-new-orleans/

Given that he was running the DRE operation in 1963, it's not only possible but probable that he was familiar with Oswald prior to JFK's assassination.

I don't think it's a smoking gun proving a conspiracy of course but I do think it's embarrassing for the CIA and other agencies to admit that the President's alleged assassin was under surveillance leading up to November 1963...

[W. Tracy Parnell]

For Morley this is all about Joannides. I don't think he's promoting it for any other reason. From there he wants to connect things directly to Counter Intelligence and specifically Angleton. And then to a anti-FPCC operation that used/manipulated Oswald.

As to baseless claims: that's an understatement. He once said - but withdrew it later - that Angleton should have been charged with "criminal negligence" for his failure to tell the Secret Service about the threat that Oswald posed to JFK. C'mon, that's silly.

Right. My forthcoming book will have a chapter on some of his claims about Phillips even though, as you say, Joannides/Angleton is his current focus.

[Gerry Down]

Bringuier said he had no contacts with the CIA, that in particular he never knew Joannides who was reportedly the liaison between the CIA and the DRE, the anti-Castro group the CIA funded and that Bringuier was a member of. But Bringuier said he informed the Miami headquarters of the DRE about the Oswald encounters before the assassination. In fact, on August 21, 1963 he issued a press release warning the US government about the dangers Oswald posed.

Again, Joannides was the liaison between the CIA and the DRE; so did Miami tell him about what Bringuier reported? If Bringuier said Oswald was a threat wouldn't they tell Joannides? And Did Joannides (or someone in the CIA) hear about Oswald? Oswald appeared on radio and TV. One would think the CIA would notice all of this activity on his part.

The Bringuier press release is here: https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0097a.htm

This is good info. Joannides files (the ones the CIA wont release) so would contain his contact with the Miami DRE and the info they were receiving from Carlos Bringuier on Oswald. All this would have been in Joannides possession prior to the assassination. But I don't see any evidence that Joannides or the CIA were directing anything based on this info.

Joannides might simply have been a receptacle of information that just happened to be coming in about Oswald.