Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2021, 08:29:11 PM »
Well, a bit rhetorical and a bit serious with the serious purpose directed at the Oswald defenders.

It seems obvious - doesn't it? - that he was worried about someone waiting for him at the house. Otherwise why go through those measures? What's an alternate explanation?

And what is the explanation anyway for him taking a cab to get to his rooming house? What's the rush to get there? There's a long series of acts by Oswald after the assassination that indicate to me that he was in flight from the TSBD. Any other explanation that considers all of those acts simply don't make sense. To me.

As Robert Blakey said, any explanation as to what happened in Dallas begins with the Oswald. The question is does it end with him or is there more? E.g., did he have help? was he manipulated?

Yeah, he had help  ;)


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Re: Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2021, 09:11:00 PM »
Yeah, he had help  ;)


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Blakey thought he did. Or that he was manipulated by Marcello and Trafficante and elements of the mob. That he thought he would get help. Or something <g>. Thus the "hit" by Ruby, a hit he did on orders from Trafficante.

I don't see it anywhere but I guess it's a plausible explanation for his post-assassination behavior. That is he was expecting help, was hung out to dry, and then had to wing it afterwards. Thus the frantic escape and actions that seemed to have no purpose.
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Re: Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2021, 12:24:35 AM »
Blakey thought he did. Or that he was manipulated by Marcello and Trafficante and elements of the mob. That he thought he would get help. Or something <g>. Thus the "hit" by Ruby, a hit he did on orders from Trafficante.

I don't see it anywhere but I guess it's a plausible explanation for his post-assassination behavior. That is he was expecting help, was hung out to dry, and then had to wing it afterwards. Thus the frantic escape and actions that seemed to have no purpose.

No mob element would let Oswald just get out on the town like that. Besides, why 'take the chance' (Goodfellas/Sopranos) on these guys later squealing. I'll go with Bugliosi's 'driven to his death' thing.
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Re: Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2021, 03:27:31 AM »
Well, a bit rhetorical and a bit serious with the serious purpose directed at the Oswald defenders.

It seems obvious - doesn't it? - that he was worried about someone waiting for him at the house. Otherwise why go through those measures? What's an alternate explanation?

And what is the explanation anyway for him taking a cab to get to his rooming house? What's the rush to get there? There's a long series of acts by Oswald after the assassination that indicate to me that he was in flight from the TSBD. Any other explanation that considers all of those acts simply don't make sense. To me.

As Robert Blakey said, any explanation as to what happened in Dallas begins with the Oswald. The question is does it end with him or is there more? E.g., did he have help? was he manipulated?

When you say …"someone" waiting at 1026 I assume you mean law enforcement? Do you think they would park outside or be waiting at the gate? However we know Earlene told of a police car outside while Oswald was getting his jacket. If it was the real reason why not just stop a block down the road when the coast was clear. Every minute counted it seems.

As for lack of preparation I wonder why he spent Wednesday night until midnight at the washerteria across the road from the roominghouse and had to be asked to leave. If he was going to "do the deed" on Friday, why take $13 or so? Not enough for an escape and too much if caught/killed in the act.

Another one of those what if’s as an aside for the LN crew. Lovelady and Frazier were friendly. They quite often helped each other when their cars needed assistance, charging etc. Lovelady lived in Irving and his car was not operational that Friday he had to take the bus. Can you imagine Frazier saying to Oswald that they were giving him a lift too? Lovelady getting in the back seat with a package?
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Re: Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2021, 06:49:27 AM »

When you say …"someone" waiting at 1026 I assume you mean law enforcement? Do you think they would park outside or be waiting at the gate? However we know Earlene told of a police car outside while Oswald was getting his jacket. If it was the real reason why not just stop a block down the road when the coast was clear. Every minute counted it seems.

But Earlene wasn’t saying that on the day of the assassination, nor the next day, nor the next day. Only about a week later, after a week of having police cars parked by the house from time to time, did she suddenly remember seeing a police car parked near the house on November 22.

As for lack of preparation I wonder why he spent Wednesday night until midnight at the washerteria across the road from the roominghouse and had to be asked to leave. If he was going to "do the deed" on Friday, why take $13 or so? Not enough for an escape and too much if caught/killed in the act.

What preparation could he do with the rifle at Ruth Paine’s house? Any preparation can’t start until Thursday night. Might as well get his clothes clean for Friday.

Another one of those what if’s as an aside for the LN crew. Lovelady and Frazier were friendly. They quite often helped each other when their cars needed assistance, charging etc. Lovelady lived in Irving and his car was not operational that Friday he had to take the bus. Can you imagine Frazier saying to Oswald that they were giving him a lift too? Lovelady getting in the back seat with a package?

I imagine Oswald would insist on getting in the back so Lovelady, who had known Fraizer longer, could sit up front with his friend.

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Re: Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case
« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2021, 07:15:50 AM »
But Earlene wasn’t saying that on the day of the assassination, nor the next day, nor the next day. Only about a week later, after a week of having police cars parked by the house from time to time, did she suddenly remember seeing a police car parked near the house on November 22.

What preparation could he do with the rifle at Ruth Paine’s house? Any preparation can’t start until Thursday night. Might as well get his clothes clean for Friday.

I imagine Oswald would insist on getting in the back so Lovelady, who had known Fraizer longer, could sit up front with his friend.

So, only initial statements are of value. I’m sure Chappy will provide his thoughts on that notion.

As for the clothes.....what a great excuse for a package on Thursday's trip to Irving with Buell. Seems preparation neglected the essentials requiring a risky return to 1026. All that money left at Irving could have been used for a new revolver, jacket and ticket to anywhere by the time Tippit was dead.

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Re: Youtube Interview I Did, Tippit Case
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2021, 03:37:04 PM »
So, only initial statements are of value. I’m sure Chappy will provide his thoughts on that notion.

As for the clothes.....what a great excuse for a package on Thursday's trip to Irving with Buell. Seems preparation neglected the essentials requiring a risky return to 1026. All that money left at Irving could have been used for a new revolver, jacket and ticket to anywhere by the time Tippit was dead.

Chappy recalls Buell describing Lovelady as a 'runt' (in relation to his height).

Yep... fast friends, those two.
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