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« Reply #70 on: July 12, 2021, 08:44:30 PM »
The same Whaley who said he saw Oswald's photo on t.v. and also said OSWALD was wearing a blue denim trousers and jacket.
And the guy he said you couldn't miss him in the line up


"At that time he had on a pair of black pants and white T-shirt, that is all he had on. But you could have picked him out without identifying him by just listening to him because he was bawling out the policeman, telling them it wasn't right to put him in line with these teenagers and all of that and they asked me which one and I told them. It was him all right, the same man."


The words "Set up" come to mind

Indeed, Mr. Mitcham, quite an astute assessment there sir @ "The words 'Set up' comes to mind"...

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« Reply #71 on: July 12, 2021, 09:17:40 PM »
Mr. Mytton,

Reread your post #56 again...

Explain to those of us reading along how that mere paper bus-transfer does Not display actual evidence  bearing the burnt of an intense adrenaline pumped struggle in the Texas Theatre, where not one, not two, not three, not four, but five apprehending officers manhandled the diminutive physique/build of the wrongly-accused.

In their own words, not mine, they manhandled him from the rear, on both sides w/one officer on each side, and from the front by two officers...now let's focus on just the two officers in the front, ask yourself this honest question? Did the officers bow at the wrongly-accused's feet, Or grab the lil' sumbitch in the center of his gravity with iron-clad fisted-grips?

It's your prerogative if you care to continue to deny the obvious planting of manufactured "evidence" well after that intense physical struggle in the Texas Theatre, but you are only fooling yourself if you think two officers (amid inflamed intensity at that moment w/thoughts about this man being responsible for what happened at 10th & Patton to a fellow officer), wouldn't be handling him with iron-clad tight-fisted-grips....

If you have time today, and a partner to work with, try this small experiment. Place a piece of 3 x 6 paper in your breast pocket. Ask your partner to merely use one iron-clad tight-fisted grip upon that pocket and tug both ways in opposite directions several times. The result? Lots more damage than the manufactured bus-transfer later in the day well after that authentic intense struggle at the Texas Theatre. The next time you may be watching a hockey game, note where both skaters engaged in a fight place one of their hands for leverage in handling/controlling an opponent (not his feet, Mr. Mytton, but at the center of his gravity sir, where even the clothing of some of these engagements rip and tear).  A mere paper thin bus-transfer--void of being planted--would fare much worse.

The problem with hastily contrived scripts mired in the stench of horse manure is they are rife w/major Oops upon much closer examination. The planting of that manufactured bus-transfer "evidence" should have taken into account that intense struggle in the Texas Theatre. Oops!

Last thought today, be safe everyone and lest anyone tells you otherwise, the wrongly-accused was never on Mr. McWatters' bus, let alone asking for a bus-transfer ---->

Mr. BALL - Anyway, you were not able to identify any man in the lineup as the passenger?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.
Mr. BALL - As the passenger who had gotten on?
Mr. McWATTERS - No, sir.


The wrongly-accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.

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« Reply #72 on: July 12, 2021, 11:49:56 PM »
"in the right place at about the right time".  LOL.

You people should at least read the testimony before embarrassing yourselves.

Whaley said when he wrote down the times on the 22nd he didn't use a watch and guessed.

Mr. WHALEY. I thought maybe you might need it. You look down there it says Greyhound, 500 North Beckley, I think it is marked 12:30 to 12:45. Now that could have been 10 minutes off in each direction because I didn't use a watch, I just guess, in other words, all my trips are marked about 15 minutes each.

Whaley goes on to say that sometimes he would make up to four trips before writing them down.

Mr. BALL. Tell me when you make the entries, you make the entries when?
Mr. WHALEY. Sometimes I make them right after I make the trips, sir, and sometimes I make three or four trips before I make the entries.


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« Reply #73 on: July 12, 2021, 11:58:56 PM »
Trip sheet times are not correct as per Whaley and doesn't match the time line, you really suck at this -- ROFL

I don't understand where this line of conspiracy leads? Are you saying that Whaley wasn't a cab driver and he was just another part of your mega-conspiracy? And if so shouldn't the times be absolutely spot on?

Btw Whaley's insignificant time discrepancies are fully explained by his testimony, read it.

P.S. what happened to Weidmann, cat got his tongue? LMFAO!

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« Reply #74 on: July 13, 2021, 12:07:45 AM »
Now is your time to excel.

Name a single bus driver who took Oswald to work (and back) on week days for 6 weeks.

Why should any bus driver specifically remember Oswald?

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« Reply #75 on: July 13, 2021, 12:29:06 AM »
"just past Oswald's rooming house" -- LOL

Five(!) blocks according to Whaley's trip sheet.

Equals a 10(!) minute walk (Googlemaps) back to "Oswald's" rooming house -- ROFL

LOL! Whaley's cab wasn't a bus that goes on a set route but he could go in any direction and what cannot be denied is that the man Whaley positively identified as Lee Harvey Oswald went "just past Oswald's rooming house". LOL!
As I previously pointed out, not only did Oswald admit catching a cab but the chances that another random customer went just past Oswald's rooming house at the specified time is possible but not very likely and as I asked Ford, where does all this conspiracy go, why make it up and what does it prove?



Btw even though a ten minute walk isn't far it can be quite good for you, try it! LMFAOYFD! LOLOL

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« Reply #76 on: July 13, 2021, 12:45:10 AM »

If you have time today, and a partner to work with, try this small experiment. Place a piece of 3 x 6 paper in your breast pocket. Ask your partner to merely use one iron-clad tight-fisted grip upon that pocket and tug both ways in opposite directions several times.

Since we're speculating, I'd expect that if Oswald's shirt pockets were man-handled in the way you describe above, then I'd fully expect a torn pocket but alas as can be seen below Oswald's pockets were glistening in their pristineness. Oops! try again!





Btw Oswald left the Depository and ended up in the Texas Theatre, why do you think they had to invent the bus and cab rides, how does that in any way make Oswald more or less guilty?
Do you believe Roger Craig's story about Oswald and Oswald's escape in the Rambler?

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