Is Fred Litwin the new LN proponent leader?

[Tom Scully]

If/when you read his books you'll see that he spends most of his time exposing the fraudulency of the major conspiracy claims, chiefly the ones promoted by the "Garrisonites" such as Stone and DiEugenio et al, and very little time promoting the lone assassin view. This is more true with his second book about Garrison's incredible abuses in his investigation. In his first book, he explains how he became a conspiracy believer - he mentions seeing the Zapruder film on the Geraldo Rivera show - and how after checking original sources like the WC he came to realize that he was misled if not outright lied to.

So he's more of a anti-CT author than a pro-LN author. ....

Steve, at least Joan Mellen is sincere, sincerely conned by Jim Garrison. Mr. Litwin, OTOH, has had the benefit of newer available information but has chosen instead to "stick to the script."

Joan Mellen first met Jim Garrison just months after the Clay Shaw trial in 1969 and described interviewing more than 1200 people before publishing her book on Jim Garrison, “Farewell to Justice.”

More than 30 years after she first met Jim Garrison and in addition to much other research and interviewing 1200 people, this was the crux and the emphasis of Joan Mellen’s presentation on the best supported CIA influences/interference on Garrison’s investigation and his prosecution of Clay Shaw.

    https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Unredacted_-_Episode_1_-_Transcript.html
    "Unredacted Episode 1: Transcript of Interview with Joan Mellen
    Joan Mellen is the author of A Farewell to Justice: Jim Garrison, JFK’s Assassination, and the Case That Should Have Changed History. This interview was conducted on 22 Feb 2006. Tyler Weaver provided the introduction, and the interview was conducted by Rex Bradford.
    …….
    REX: I – I think –

    JOAN: – when Baldwin was present, he was a CIA asset, his brother worked for the International Trade Mart and Clay Shaw, David Baldwin, and these, these are CIA people…."

Yes, Joan, but they were also Garrison's wife's close family, Clay Shaw knew it, but nobody told you, Sklar, or Stone. Nicholas Lemann knew it, too, so did Tom Bethell!

David Baldwin's wife, Mildred, was the daughter of Nicholas Lemann's step-grandmother, Mildred Crumb Lyons Lemann:
http://files.usgwarchives.net/la/orleans/obits/1/l-11.txt
"003004 Lemann Mildred Crumb Lyons Lemann, A Homemaker, Died Friday At Her Home In New Orleans. She
Was 94. Mrs. Lemann Was A Lifelong Resident Of New Orleans. … In 1929, She Worked At Metairie Park
Country Day School, Where She Coordinated The School's Non-Academic Activities. Survivors Include A Daughter, Mildred Lyons Baldwin;
A Sister, Ethel Crumb Brett; Two Stepsons, Thomas B. Lemann, And Stephen B. Lemann; …. Times Picayune 01-14-1990"

Mary wasn't 100 percent accurate, but a lot more transparent than Mr. Litwin or Nicholas Lemann :

https://www.maryferrell.org/php/marysdb.php?id=2345&search=stephen%20b%20lemann
2. CIA, IN NEW ORLEANS
Found in: Mary Ferrell's Database
"Leake, III; Stephen B. Lemann (resident CIA Chief in New Orleans - with Law Firm: Monroe & Lemann). See Lloyd A. Ray."

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/T%20Disk/TV-Radio%20Transcripts%20From%20Trunzo%20Russ/WFLD-TV/67-07-11.pdf

[Mark A. Oblazney]

Steve, continuing from my last post, here is an excerpt of another blog post (March, 2021) of Mr. Litwin,

You indicate you have the identical approach as Mr. Litwin's. You minimize, avoid, or ignore what does not fit your conclusions, instead of being open to what the facts indicate.

My original research is now 5 years old. Five years of ignoring new, verifiable details while sticking to the old, which resolved nothing, because it can't, it is incomplete, is par for the course, I guess!

Mr. Litwin does not mention Edward Baldwin's brother David in the blog post I linked to. They are son's of the sister of Garrison's father-in-law. Edward Baldwin worked for years as associates under WC senior asst. counsel,
Leon Hubert. Baldwin, Hubert, and the Baldwins' sister's future husband (See Obit, below) went into law practice together.:

Date on left: 1965, date on right, 1954:


https://jfkfacts.org/comment-of-the-week-17/#comment-859056




Proof the Baldwin brothers were nephews of Garrison's wife's father, Herbert Ziegler.
His sister. the Baldwin's mother, was Adele Ziegler Baldwin Raworth, obit displayed above.

Oh, I just KNEW the name 'Baldwin' would 'trigger' you, Tom.  We all need a jolt every now and then, eh?

[Joe Elliott]

How does Fred Litwin stack up against his predecessors Gerald Posner, Vincent Bugliosi, Dale Myers, and John McAdams? Does he make more or less convincing arguments than these in favor of the LN position?

Fred is okay, but he does not rank in the foremost ranks of General LN spokesmen like these four, plus Jean Davidson who I would add to that list. There are also the top LN spokesmen who were not “Generalists” but “Specialists” in some narrow field, like in ballistics like Luke Haag, Michael Hagg, Larry Sturdivan, or medicine like Dr. John Lattimer. Fred is not as major a spokesman as any of them are (or was).

[Tom Scully]

....

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=20298&p=275914
Thomas H. Purvis – Posted 19 July 2013
…….
The “power structure” within New Orleans lies not with those who are currently in what is some temporary political position.

It lies with those who possess the capability to place these persons in the various political positions.

Therefore, Jim Garrison, not unlike any other political figure in New Orleans, did what he was instructed to do or else he suffered the consequences.

Now, if one could only resolve exactly who, within the deep south city of New Orleans, LA, would have reason to replace JFK.

Hint: It would be those who, for whatever reason, had the means and reasons to end Fidel Castro’s control of Cuba.

Just perhaps someone whom United Fruit entrusted to their most confidential tasks

....

Take it one step further than this....:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=162353#relPageId=7&search=volkswagen

[Tom Scully]

...IOW, why is it so difficult to consider that all of it was a charade? Garrison's career was not severely impacted, he kept his family ties to his alleged CIA tormentors a secret, even from Joan Mellen, and especially, from Zachary Sklar, editor of Garrison's autobiography, and there were no new investigations of the intelligence complex-Assassination of JFK until 1975. Nicholas Lemann, nephew of alleged CIA paymaster of NOLA Stephen Lemann and grandson of Mildred Crumb Lyons Lemann, mother of David Baldwin's wife, was free to ridicule Stone's film in GQ magazine and on Charlie Rose's TV show while disclosing nothing of Nicholas's family ties, including with Garrison's wife, via her 1st cousin/godfather David Baldwin, with no one demanding such disclosure, not even Garrison! Mission accomplished?

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=139367#relPageId=123



JFK Facts » Comment of the week
https://jfkfacts.org/comment-week-21-9/
"Survivors include his wife, Marlin Head Robertson; three sons, Sen. Phillip S. Robertson of New Haven, Conn., Willard E. Robertson Jr. and James C. Robertson, and a daughter, Patricia Miller of New Haven, Conn. The 1940 US Census indicates Willard was a $35 per week restaurant manager who had married Sally Moss of New York."

Willard E. Robertson, born 1907, still residing in New Hampshire with parents at age 22, 1930 U.S. Census
1935 - marries Sally Moskowitz in New York
1938 - New Haven, CT city directory, employed as a clerk in a Yale campus vicinty, men's clothing store
1940 - New Haven, CT city directory, employed at a bakery-restaurant
1942 - New Haven, CT city directory, employed as manager of a Yale campus vicinity breakfast-lunch restaurant
1944 - New Haven, CT city directory, employed as a West Haven, CT woodworker by Jack Churchward.
(Churchward and Allen Dulles both entered Princeton Univ. in 1910)
1946 - New Haven, CT city directory, employed as a West Haven prod. superintendent, Churchward Industries
(Willard Robertson is 38 years old, resides with wife Sally and two children in rented house, Elm St., New Haven)
1947 - Churchward sends Robertson to NOLA to set up Southeast marketing of Churchward steel hulled boats)
1950 - December 8, Now divorced, 42 yr old Robertson marries his 22 yr old office secretary, Marie Gossom
(Churchward http://steelcruisers.com/steelcrafts.html files for bankruptcy in 1952)
1955 - Willard Robertson markets Renault Dauphine from a booth at the NOLA Trade Mart

Compared to the others selected by Volkswagen to be their regional distributors, Willard was a nobody.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Getting_the_Bugs_Out/
Getting the Bugs Out: The Rise, Fall, and Comeback of ... - Page 76
David Kiley · 2002
FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 76
East of the Mississippi , Lange ' s counterpart was Will van de Kamp . ... Michigan , covering Michigan and Indiana ; Charles Urschel , Jr . , in San Antonio , Texas ; Willard Robertson in New Orleans , Louisiana , covering the Delta states and ...

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/I%20Disk/Informational%20Council%20of%20the%20Americas/Item%2016.pdf


https://washingtonmonthly.com/2009/11/01/windmills-revisited/
Windmills, Revisited
by Nicholas Lemann November 1, 2009
" The Monthly, methodologically, was always reportorial, and it was never conservative but, when I joined the magazine, the other editorial employee besides me and Charlie was Tom Bethell, an actual conservative, and it seemed as if the magazine devoted its main energies to attacking conventional liberal positions. When I first came to the magazines office for my job interview in the winter of 1976, .."

Tom Bethell -- Garrison's JFK Assassination Investigation ...
www.mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bethell5.htm
He was sort of talked into it by Willard Robertson, Rault and Garrison. Ivon said that Willard Robertson has practically underwritten the investigation, and has personally donated $25,000 or $30,000 of his own money to "Truth or Consequences". However, Ivon does not think Robertson intends to give any more, or is unlikely to.

Tom Bethell, who helped derail Jim Garrison's Kennedy ...
https://www.nola.com/news/courts/article_ad55ed42-7308-11eb-8194-57d5cd366e53.html
Nicholas Lemann, who had befriended Bethell when both worked for The Courier, said Bethell wrote a 10,000-word piece, never published, on the cornetist Buddy Bolden. After a stint at New Orleans...

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=20298&p=275914
    Thomas H. Purvis – Posted 19 July 2013
    …….
    The “power structure” within New Orleans lies not with those who are currently in what is some temporary political position.

    It lies with those who possess the capability to place these persons in the various political positions…

Both the obituaries of CIA officers Burke and Ray managed to include the detail of their membership in the New Orleans country club long managed (since 1925) by Ernest I. Gossom, Willard Robertson's father-in-law and business partner.

In 1960, Willard Robertson was driving a vehicle in an accident in which his wife, Marie, Gossom's daughter, was killed. In 1962, widower Robertson married his third wife, Marlin Head, of Shreveport.



In 1967, the CIA counsel came to NOLA to discuss on May 13, 1967, the Garrison Investigation with Lloyd Ray. Curiously, they did not meet at the assumed to be secure, CIA Domestic contacts office.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=55186#relPageId=260&search=%22new_orleans%20country%20club%22
 2. Reel 24, Folder I - GARRISON INVESTIGATION., pg 260
Found in: HSCA Segregated CIA Collection (microfilm - reel 24: Photo Surveillance, Garrison)
"Ray and myself went to the New Orleans Country Club and discussed all the ramifications of the Garrison investigation as they had developed up to that"

[Mark A. Oblazney]

...IOW, why is it so difficult to consider that all of it was a charade? Garrison's career was not severely impacted, he kept his family ties to his alleged CIA tormentors a secret, even from Joan Mellen, and especially, from Zachary Sklar, editor of Garrison's autobiography, and there were no new investigations of the intelligence complex-Assassination of JFK until 1975. Nicholas Lemann, nephew of alleged CIA paymaster of NOLA Stephen Lemann and grandson of Mildred Crumb Lyons Lemann, mother of David Baldwin's wife, was free to ridicule Stone's film in GQ magazine and on Charlie Rose's TV show while disclosing nothing of Nicholas's family ties, including with Garrison's wife, via her 1st cousin/godfather David Baldwin, with no one demanding such disclosure, not even Garrison! Mission accomplished?

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=139367#relPageId=123



JFK Facts » Comment of the week
https://jfkfacts.org/comment-week-21-9/
"Survivors include his wife, Marlin Head Robertson; three sons, Sen. Phillip S. Robertson of New Haven, Conn., Willard E. Robertson Jr. and James C. Robertson, and a daughter, Patricia Miller of New Haven, Conn. The 1940 US Census indicates Willard was a $35 per week restaurant manager who had married Sally Moss of New York."

Willard E. Robertson, born 1907, still residing in New Hampshire with parents at age 22, 1930 U.S. Census
1935 - marries Sally Moskowitz in New York
1938 - New Haven, CT city directory, employed as a clerk in a Yale campus vicinty, men's clothing store
1940 - New Haven, CT city directory, employed at a bakery-restaurant
1942 - New Haven, CT city directory, employed as manager of a Yale campus vicinity breakfast-lunch restaurant
1944 - New Haven, CT city directory, employed as a West Haven, CT woodworker by Jack Churchward.
(Churchward and Allen Dulles both entered Princeton Univ. in 1910)
1946 - New Haven, CT city directory, employed as a West Haven prod. superintendent, Churchward Industries
(Willard Robertson is 38 years old, resides with wife Sally and two children in rented house, Elm St., New Haven)
1947 - Churchward sends Robertson to NOLA to set up Southeast marketing of Churchward steel hulled boats)
1950 - December 8, Now divorced, 42 yr old Robertson marries his 22 yr old office secretary, Marie Gossom
(Churchward http://steelcruisers.com/steelcrafts.html files for bankruptcy in 1952)
1955 - Willard Robertson markets Renault Dauphine from a booth at the NOLA Trade Mart

Compared to the others selected by Volkswagen to be their regional distributors, Willard was a nobody.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Getting_the_Bugs_Out/
Getting the Bugs Out: The Rise, Fall, and Comeback of ... - Page 76
David Kiley · 2002
FOUND INSIDE – PAGE 76
East of the Mississippi , Lange ' s counterpart was Will van de Kamp . ... Michigan , covering Michigan and Indiana ; Charles Urschel , Jr . , in San Antonio , Texas ; Willard Robertson in New Orleans , Louisiana , covering the Delta states and ...

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/I%20Disk/Informational%20Council%20of%20the%20Americas/Item%2016.pdf


https://washingtonmonthly.com/2009/11/01/windmills-revisited/
Windmills, Revisited
by Nicholas Lemann November 1, 2009
" The Monthly, methodologically, was always reportorial, and it was never conservative but, when I joined the magazine, the other editorial employee besides me and Charlie was Tom Bethell, an actual conservative, and it seemed as if the magazine devoted its main energies to attacking conventional liberal positions. When I first came to the magazines office for my job interview in the winter of 1976, .."

Tom Bethell -- Garrison's JFK Assassination Investigation ...
www.mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bethell5.htm
He was sort of talked into it by Willard Robertson, Rault and Garrison. Ivon said that Willard Robertson has practically underwritten the investigation, and has personally donated $25,000 or $30,000 of his own money to "Truth or Consequences". However, Ivon does not think Robertson intends to give any more, or is unlikely to.

Tom Bethell, who helped derail Jim Garrison's Kennedy ...
https://www.nola.com/news/courts/article_ad55ed42-7308-11eb-8194-57d5cd366e53.html
Nicholas Lemann, who had befriended Bethell when both worked for The Courier, said Bethell wrote a 10,000-word piece, never published, on the cornetist Buddy Bolden. After a stint at New Orleans...

Both the obituaries of CIA officers Burke and Ray managed to include the detail of their membership in the New Orleans country club long managed (since 1925) by Ernest I. Gossom, Willard Robertson's father-in-law and business partner.

In 1960, Willard Robertson was driving a vehicle in an accident in which his wife, Marie, Gossom's daughter, was killed. In 1962, widower Robertson married his third wife, Marlin Head, of Shreveport.



In 1967, the CIA counsel came to NOLA to discuss on May 13, 1967, the Garrison Investigation with Lloyd Ray. Curiously, they did not meet at the assumed to be secure, CIA Domestic contacts office.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=55186#relPageId=260&search=%22new_orleans%20country%20club%22
 2. Reel 24, Folder I - GARRISON INVESTIGATION., pg 260
Found in: HSCA Segregated CIA Collection (microfilm - reel 24: Photo Surveillance, Garrison)
"Ray and myself went to the New Orleans Country Club and discussed all the ramifications of the Garrison investigation as they had developed up to that"

You're 'at it' again, Tom.  Why are your posts so fascinating?  Now I have to fact-check again...... bother!!!!

[Gerry Down]

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=162353#relPageId=7&search=volkswagen

What do the letters DC/CI/R&A stand for in the above?