Et tu, Bonnie?

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Offline Alan J. Ford

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #427 on: April 23, 2021, 06:29:33 PM »
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ak3JymYrSpzVtF0i-jbAxuRICk9lcZ5q/view?usp=sharing

This insightful link shared by top-shelf researcher Mr. Davidson (Chris) is proving to be rather informative & interesting as well. The more I view it the more further examination is required before I weigh in definitively. Will continue to study it to determine if in fact the short gentlemen at the 39 sec mark is Roy Truly (will have to glean some resources to garner a photo of Chief Lumpkin to match to a gentlemen who may also be in this time sequence at the 39 sec mark). If so that would offer up a definitive time sequence as Chief Lumpkin enters the timeline scene after Roy Truly notices one of his men "missing" (please excuse the eye-roll).

Some accounts say Roy Truly asked Bill Shelley the whereabouts of the wrongly accused; and, yet another account suggests Bill Shelley actually asked Roy Truly...

*Note: self-reminder to double-back and review video again to determine if the eye-glasses on one of the gentlemen among the trio at the window at the 12 sec. mark matches Roy Truly's.

Meanwhile, encouraging to read the insightful posts being generated here by some astute research by an ensemble of exemplary researchers. Carry on gentlemen.




Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #428 on: April 23, 2021, 08:25:16 PM »
Mr. BALL. Where were you standing when you heard the shots?
Mr. ARCE. I was standing in front of the Texas School Book Depository. I was on that grassy area part in front.
Mr. BALL. You were not on the sidewalk?
Mr. ARCE. No, I was on the sidewalk, then I walked up to the grass to get a higher view. and still couldn't see.

I believe he has been identified standing east of the main entrance on the sidewalk as the motorcade passed. Hopefully someone has that image.

Exactly---and then after the shots he made his way west to the railroad tracks

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #429 on: April 23, 2021, 08:28:53 PM »
This insightful link shared by top-shelf researcher Mr. Davidson (Chris) is proving to be rather informative & interesting as well. The more I view it the more further examination is required before I weigh in definitively. Will continue to study it to determine if in fact the short gentlemen at the 39 sec mark is Roy Truly (will have to glean some resources to garner a photo of Chief Lumpkin to match to a gentlemen who may also be in this time sequence at the 39 sec mark). If so that would offer up a definitive time sequence as Chief Lumpkin enters the timeline scene after Roy Truly notices one of his men "missing" (please excuse the eye-roll).

Some accounts say Roy Truly asked Bill Shelley the whereabouts of the wrongly accused; and, yet another account suggests Bill Shelley actually asked Roy Truly...

*Note: self-reminder to double-back and review video again to determine if the eye-glasses on one of the gentlemen among the trio at the window at the 12 sec. mark matches Roy Truly's.

Meanwhile, encouraging to read the insightful posts being generated here by some astute research by an ensemble of exemplary researchers. Carry on gentlemen.

Yes, that's Mr Truly, and he's on the fifth floor

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #430 on: April 23, 2021, 10:41:50 PM »
The "story" was straightened by Belin and Ball on March 20. Those of Jarman and Norman too. A story that sort of allowed Oswald to be silent in th SN for many minutes unnoticed. Still wondering how Rowland's 12.15 gunman managed to stay out of William's gaze though.

By May seems 12.15pm wasn’t a problem any more for him. More memory loss?



Does anyone think he got the times he left for work wrong that day?

What is the point of the May interview?

BRW has already given statements to the DPD, the FBI, the SS and the WC.
He knows they normally break for lunch about 11:55 AM and broke maybe 5 or 10 minutes earlier because of the motorcade. So why mention 11:30 AM? He might as well say between 8:00 AM and 12 noon.
He knows Jarman and Norman were up on the 5th about 12:25 PM, so why is he still sticking to the 12:15 PM time when he estimated 12:20 PM in his WC testimony?
And even more bizarrely, he's still sticking to eating his lunch in front of the third set of windows.

What's even more bizarre is Hank Norman sticking to the story that BRW was with him and Jarman in his HSCA interview.
Other than his WC testimony, Norman has constantly maintained that BRW was with him and Norman when they went up to the 5th floor. I don't get it, unless BRW really was with them but then somehow got pressured into saying it was his lunch on the 6th floor when it wasn't. This line of thought brings a whole new set of problems with it.

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #431 on: April 24, 2021, 02:44:56 AM »
What is the point of the May interview?

BRW has already given statements to the DPD, the FBI, the SS and the WC.
He knows they normally break for lunch about 11:55 AM and broke maybe 5 or 10 minutes earlier because of the motorcade. So why mention 11:30 AM? He might as well say between 8:00 AM and 12 noon.
He knows Jarman and Norman were up on the 5th about 12:25 PM, so why is he still sticking to the 12:15 PM time when he estimated 12:20 PM in his WC testimony?
And even more bizarrely, he's still sticking to eating his lunch in front of the third set of windows.

What's even more bizarre is Hank Norman sticking to the story that BRW was with him and Jarman in his HSCA interview.
Other than his WC testimony, Norman has constantly maintained that BRW was with him and Norman when they went up to the 5th floor. I don't get it, unless BRW really was with them but then somehow got pressured into saying it was his lunch on the 6th floor when it wasn't. This line of thought brings a whole new set of problems with it.

I can only guess that the Report needed to be constructed and the "Belin Ball solution", having Oswald silently crouched in the SN until Williams left the sixth floor was threatened by Rowland's 12.15 gunman. Easier to shift Williams visit backwards in time and have no way of interacting. Then just forget the testimonies of others that made the scenario impossible. This is what the report and LN Guru Bugliosi eventually rested on. Make the facts fit the conclusion......no one will read the documents anyway will they.....paraphrasing Allen Dulles.

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #432 on: April 24, 2021, 12:30:18 PM »
From the March 25 memo entitled the Mystery of the West Elevator by Norman Redlich to Ball and Belin.



Williams, Norman and Jarman appeared before the WC on March 24!

Seems the "story." concocted by Ball and Belin a few days before in Dallas did not even pass the internal sniff test.

Cant see any evidence of follow up persistent questioning.

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #433 on: April 24, 2021, 05:48:46 PM »
Just another puzzler for the LN proponents. How did the chicken bones get back in the bag for Studebaker to find them there?