Et tu, Bonnie?

[Martin Weidmann]

I'm not sure what you are taking issue with.  It is simply a fact that Oswald was the only TSBD employee who left identifiable prints on the boxes.  Do you have the name of another TSBD employee who left their prints on the cartons?  According to the FBI report listed as Commission Exhibit 3131 there were 25 identifiable prints on the four boxes.  24 of those were linked to the two investigators.  The FBI took the prints of the TSBD employees who came into contact with the book cartons.  None of those matched any of the identifiable prints on the SN boxes. Only Oswald. 

https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh26/pdf/WH26_CE_3131.pdf

You really are not getting this, are you. They only found 2 prints linked to Oswald because they didn't bother to identify the others after finding they did not belong to Oswald. That's basically what Latona, Mandella and Wittmus told the WC in their testimony and affidavit!

If CE 3131 is supposed to have any value, then why did it take them 10 months to come up with these "findings" - that contradicts what Latona said in his testimony - only days before the WC report was released?

Btw, to build the snipers nest a large number of boxes needed to be moved. If Oswald did that all by himself, why did they find no prints belonging to him on any of the other boxes? Did all those boxes magically move themselves?

It's the same as with the paper bag that Oswald is supposed to have constructed. In either case, you would expect his prints to be all over the place, but they are not. Go figure.

[Bill Chapman]

Who said anything about other TSBD employees? What about, for example, all the police officers that were in or near the S/N?

Are you really trying to tell us that in a warehouse filled with boxes and lots of staff handling them, Oswald's fingerprints were somehow the only prints on those boxes? Really?

Here's a reality check; on 4 boxes there were 25 prints found that were clear enough to make identification matches. In addition there were more prints that were too fragmented for identification. Out if all these prints only 1 right index fingerprint and 1 left palmprint were identified as Oswald's. Or did Latona, Mandella and Wittmus Lie?

'only 1 right index fingerprint and 1 left palmprint were identified as Oswald's'
ONLY two, huh? How many do you need, Slick, considering not only the box's position, but the position of the prints on said box.

[Martin Weidmann]

'only 1 right index fingerprint and 1 left palmprint were identified as Oswald's'
ONLY two, huh? How many do you need, Slick, considering not only the box's position, but the position of the prints on said box.

ONLY two, huh? How many do you need, Slick,

How shallow and narrowminded can you get?

Two prints from a guy who worked on that floor and - guess what - was supposed to move boxes.
So many boxes to build the snipers nest (all done by Oswald, right?) and only two prints? Really?

[Alan Ford]

You, for example.  Since you think Oswald was innocent and framed.

Quote me ever saying Mr Oswald was framed as the gunman. Can you, Mr Smith? Thought not.

[Alan Ford]

Dougherty was up on 6 and he never saw anything.

Correction: he said he never saw anything. The question is: do you believe him? I ask because you think he's part of the conspiracy, so it's odd that you would now be citing him as a reliable witness

The same with Givens.

Lol

Williams was up there long enough to eat his sandwich, his bag of Fritos and drink his pop. It seems clear from various WC testimonies he was up on 6 for quite some time before coming down to join Jarman and Norman.

Actually it's far from clear. Let's start with Mr Rowland's testimony. Was Mr Williams middle-aged? Was he wearing a bright plaid shirt? Was he bald or as good as?

Nobody saw this team arrive or leave.

Correction: nobody said they saw this team arrive (though Ms Hall did see one of them there looking for something amongst boxes).

And of course Officer Baker encountered one of them walking away from the stairway several floors up the building just after the shooting.

It's almost as if there's no support for such a suggestion.

Lol, you just don't like my solution because you're gunning for Mr Williams (along with-------------when it suits your argument--------------Mr Dougherty)

[Bill Chapman]

Go figure.

Okay.

Firearm Factoids
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/factoid4.htm

EXCERPT:

1) Individuals don't always have a sufficient quantity of perspiration and/or contaminates on their hands to be deposited
2) When someone touches something, they may handle it in a manner which causes the prints to smear
3) The surface may not be suitable for retaining the minute traces of moisture in a form representative of the ridge detail
4) The environment may cause the latent print to deteriorate.

The most important fact dealing with the lack of fingerprints is that it neither suggests, implies, or establishes that any person did or did not touch the item of evidence. Items which have been witnessed to have been handled and laboratory experimentation repeatedly reiterate this premise.

Alan McRoberts
Los Angeles Sheriff's Department
Scientific Services Bureau
Identification Section

[Martin Weidmann]

Okay.

Firearm Factoids
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/factoid4.htm

EXCERPT:

1) Individuals don't always have a sufficient quantity of perspiration and/or contaminates on their hands to be deposited
2) When someone touches something, they may handle it in a manner which causes the prints to smear
3) The surface may not be suitable for retaining the minute traces of moisture in a form representative of the ridge detail
4) The environment may cause the latent print to deteriorate.

The most important fact dealing with the lack of fingerprints is that it neither suggests, implies, or establishes that any person did or did not touch the item of evidence. Items which have been witnessed to have been handled and laboratory experimentation repeatedly reiterate this premise.

Alan McRoberts
Los Angeles Sheriff's Department
Scientific Services Bureau
Identification Section

Wow, and what is this supposed to tell us?