Et tu, Bonnie?

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #189 on: April 12, 2021, 03:00:33 PM »
I think when Frazier says "the top of the sack was sort of folded up" he was referring to what we would say was the 'bottom' of the bag where the triangular fold was taped down.
When he says "the rest of the sack had been kind of folded under" he means the open end of the sack is folded at the strong fold and 'folded under' the rest of the sack.

This would make the package (CE 142) about 27" long.
Frazier consistently describes the package being about this long.
In this scenario there is no rifle in the bag,

'Frazier consistently describes the package being about this long'
Frazier consistently repeats that he wasn't paying attention to the bag.
That fact does not require speculation.

Offline Richard Smith

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« Reply #190 on: April 12, 2021, 03:01:43 PM »
Agreed

You appear to be acknowledging that this was the bag Oswald carried that morning otherwise it is difficult to understand why you are trying to square it with the appearance of the bag Frazier described.  Correct?  I thought you believed the bag was created by the DPD in some bizarre misunderstanding that was never corrected for some inexplicable reason (all the stuff about no situ photos etc).  Has that story changed?  Or was CE 142 the bag Oswald carried that morning?

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #191 on: April 12, 2021, 03:06:54 PM »
HA HA HA.  Wow.  Always nice to get a good laugh.  And in this bizarre fantasy Oswald lies to the police when it would be in his own self-interest to tell the truth to avoid being implicated in the assassination of the President?  Wow.   I'm starting to miss Caprio.  One of the dumbest explanations in the history of this forum.  Which is a high bar.

Your pathetic attempts at ridicule are in sharp contrast with your total inability to have a normal conversation or to answer even the most simple questions.   Thumb1:

Offline Richard Smith

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« Reply #192 on: April 12, 2021, 03:14:32 PM »
Your pathetic attempts at ridicule are in sharp contrast with your total inability to have a normal conversation or to answer even the most simple questions.   Thumb1:

Says the contrarian who made up a totally implausible and baseless fantasy story in which Oswald lies to Frazier and then later to the DPD against his own self interest in the assassination of the President as a cover for his domestic woes.  I thought you contrarians didn't even believe CE 142 was the bag Oswald carried that morning.  It just magically appeared there in your contrarian world (how are we to know where it came from?) and can't be linked to Oswald even though his prints are on the bag.   

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #193 on: April 12, 2021, 03:45:42 PM »
You appear to be acknowledging that this was the bag Oswald carried that morning otherwise it is difficult to understand why you are trying to square it with the appearance of the bag Frazier described.  Correct?  I thought you believed the bag was created by the DPD in some bizarre misunderstanding that was never corrected for some inexplicable reason (all the stuff about no situ photos etc).  Has that story changed?  Or was CE 142 the bag Oswald carried that morning?

I simply agreed with the various statements Dan proposed. Interesting what can arise with an open mind and simply looking at evidence. Another interesting hypothesis. Maybe he brought the metal components of the rifle without the stock.

The official bag "story" has serious flaws. Without it the LN case is considerably weakened.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #194 on: April 12, 2021, 03:48:54 PM »
Says the contrarian who made up a totally implausible and baseless fantasy story in which Oswald lies to Frazier and then later to the DPD against his own self interest in the assassination of the President as a cover for his domestic woes.  I thought you contrarians didn't even believe CE 142 was the bag Oswald carried that morning.  It just magically appeared there in your contrarian world (how are we to know where it came from?) and can't be linked to Oswald even though his prints are on the bag.   

I thought you contrarians didn't even believe CE 142 was the bag Oswald carried that morning.

The discussion between Dan and Colin supported the conclusion that CE 142 wasn't the bag Oswald carried that morning, but it seems you need a functional brain to understand that.....

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Et tu, Bonnie?
« Reply #195 on: April 12, 2021, 04:08:05 PM »
I thought you contrarians didn't even believe CE 142 was the bag Oswald carried that morning.

The discussion between Dan and Colin supported the conclusion that CE 142 wasn't the bag Oswald carried that morning, but it seems you need a functional brain to understand that.....

No it doesn't.  It allegedly supports the narrative that Oswald carried CE142 but that it did not contain the rifle.  Otherwise why compare Frazier's description of the bag Oswald carried that morning with CE 142?  That would be pointless if Oswald carried an entirely different bag.