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Oswald's shot-1 ricochet was at Z113 or Z105.
Royell Storing:
Holland's the guy claiming without ANY Evidence that Oswald was standing up and firing almost straight down through a 3/4 Closed window. And he claimed that this early shot struck the traffic signal/support beam. There is No Evidence of Oswald's posture when firing Shot #1 or an early shot. None!
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Marjan Rynkiewicz on September 05, 2025, 12:52:09 AM ---Back then i said Tina stopped filming at pseudo Z117 based on shot-1 being at pseudo Z113.
But if Holland is/was correct that shot-1 was at pseudo Z106 then that would mean that Tina stopped at pseudo Z110.
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In other words, if Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot was at hypothetical/pseudo "Z-124," it was "captured" neither by Zapruder nor by Tina Towner.
Thanks.
Royell Storing:
Like I said, "NO EVIDENCE"!
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on September 05, 2025, 02:29:04 AM --- Like I said, "NO EVIDENCE"!
--- End quote ---
There is no evidence that you, like The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx"), don't cherish "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin.
Michael T. Griffith:
This theory makes no sense to me.
One, the theory assumes that the sixth-floor gunman fired at a moment when the signal arm was near or in his aiming point. Even a rank amateur gunman would not have fired with a metal pole near or in his aiming point.
Yet, this is the supposedly the same world-class riflemen who went 2 for 2 in 5.6 seconds, a shooting feat that the WC's three Master-rated riflemen were unable to duplicate, even though they fired from only 30 feet up, fired at stationary target boards, and were allowed to take as much time as they wanted for their first shot.
Two, the gunman would have been firing virtually straight down when firing at Z113. The FBI's Robert Frazier told the WC that a shot fired at Z161, 48 frames after Z113, would have required a downward angle of 40 degrees.
Three, a bullet hitting a metal pole, even if the strike were a glancing hit, would have made a very loud noise.
Four, Tague said the bullet that struck the curb near him was the second shot.
Five, no even halfway rational scenario can get a Z113 fragment all the way to the Tague curb.
Six, you make no effort to account for the manhole-cover-grass bullet hole and the Aldredge curb bullet scar.
Seven, you make no effort to account for the misshapen bullet that Chief Mills and Chief Martinell found in the JFK limo in DC and gave to Dr. James Young at the autopsy. See https://www.med.navy.mil/Media/News/Article/2608993/what-price-a-rose-a-navy-physician-remembers-nov-22-1963/ for more info on this historic disclosure.
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