Did Captain Fritz show Mr Oswald a Mauser?

[Jack Nessan]

Incorrect!

Do you believe that Mr Rowland, while giving his affidavit statement, timestamped his and his wife's arrival in downtown Dallas at 12.10 PM? Yes or no?

The affidavit states the exact same thing as their WC testimony.
A Rowland: "At approximately 12:10 PM today, my wife Barbara and I arrived in downtown Dallas and took position to see the President's motorcade."

"and took position " ---- Yes or No?     Same as WC testimony Position "V"--- Yes or No?

[Walt Cakebread]

Just for reference, here's Jarman/Norman/Williams standing in from of the 5th floor corner window from which they watched the motorcade go by. Notice how low the lower half is. that's the only part of the window that opens. It appears to be little more than 4' from the floor.



I plugged this into some basic trigonometry using the following numbers:

Distance from Rowland to the SW column of windows in the TSBD: 280' (gained from Google Maps and the Rowland's descriptions of their location)
Height of open window: 66' (ref: Canning/HSCA, who put 6th floor sill height at 63' AGL)
Height of alleged rifleman (ranging from 5'-0" to 6'-2", which would include every sniper not in either the Lollipop Guild Special Forces or the dreaded NBA Suicide Squad.
Apparent gap between top of "rifleman" head to top of window opening (30" and 36" per A. Rowland WC testimony)

Given these, the closest the rifleman can be to the window is 13.4'....and that's for a 5'-0" tall guy with a 30" apparent gap between the top of his head and the bottom of the window sash. If the "rifleman" is 6'-2" with a 36" apparent gap between his head and the sash, then he would be standing 20'-6" inside the building.

Psssst...... This photo was taken with the three stooges standing behind the WEST window on the 5th floor ...( notice the cars in the parking are behind the north pergola )

[Alan Ford]

The affidavit states the exact same thing as their WC testimony.
A Rowland: "At approximately 12:10 PM today, my wife Barbara and I arrived in downtown Dallas and took position to see the President's motorcade."

 

Mr. ROWLAND - The time that it states here, we arrived in downtown Dallas at approximately 12:10. Actually we arrived before 12 but we took the position that we have, approximately 12:10, that position "V" on this other Exhibit 354.

Is it your position, Mr Nessan, that Mr Rowland, while giving his affidavit statement, actually said that the bus dropped him and his wife off in downtown Dallas at 12:10?

Such a simple question........ such a comedy that you don't want to give it a straight answer.

[Dan O'meara]

It does not matter what Arnold tells his wife. His whole testimony on many different subjects was shown to be false.  It was a BS story to her and then he tried to tell the same BS story to Specter and the WC  and his description of the person in the window is not possible with a window opening of 2.5 feet and the window installed 14" above the floor and Specter knew it.

He is not estimating anything but the distance above the persons head as seen through the open window. Nothing about his description is possible given the window opening being 14" from the floor.

Mr. SPECTER - What is your best estimate of the space between the top of his head and the open window at the perspective you were observing?
Mr. ROWLAND - Two and a half, three feet, something on that--that is something very hard to ascertain. That would just be an estimation on my part.

"If the arguments you are trying to make were taken at face value, Rowland would be describing a man whose head was below his waist."

That is exactly the point.

Specter knew from the beginning that Rowland had no idea about the install of the windows placing them 14" off the floor. He asked him early in the interview if he had been in the building.


Mr. SPECTER - Were you familiar with that building prior to November 22, 1963?
Mr. ROWLAND - Yes; I have been in there on occasion.
Mr. SPECTER - You have been in the building?
Mr. ROWLAND - Yes, to purchase books.
Mr. SPECTER - When were you in the building most recently prior to November 22, 1963?
Mr. ROWLAND - Within the first week of November. This was to buy a physics notebook.
Mr. SPECTER - What part of the building were you in at that time?
Mr. ROWLAND - Just inside the door of the main lobby.
Mr. SPECTER - On the first floor?
Mr. ROWLAND - Yes.
Mr. SPECTER - Had you ever had occasion at any time to be on any floor other than the first floor?
Mr. ROWLAND - No.

In the end it does not matter about Rowland's made up story. It ultimately has no impact on the understanding of the asassination. It turns out there really was a sniper on the 6th floor but Arnold never saw him.

Fair enough Jack.
You're satisfied that Rowland tells his wife about a man with a rifle on the 6th floor of the TSBD 15 minutes before the shooting but you believe he was just making it up and that it is just a miraculous coincidence that there was indeed a man with a rifle on the 6th floor of the TSBD and a further miracle that his description of the man tallies with other sightings of the shooter.
It's a totally reasonable stance to take and I respect that.

[Walt Cakebread]

Fair enough Jack.
You're satisfied that Rowland tells his wife about a man with a rifle on the 6th floor of the TSBD 15 minutes before the shooting but you believe he was just making it up and that it is just a miraculous coincidence that there was indeed a man with a rifle on the 6th floor of the TSBD and a further miracle that his description of the man tallies with other sightings of the shooter.
It's a totally reasonable stance to take and I respect that.

  ROTFLMAO !

[Mitch Todd]

Psssst...... This photo was taken with the three stooges standing behind the WEST window on the 5th floor ...( notice the cars in the parking are behind the north pergola )

I stand corrected, at least as far as CE489. CE488 shows the South-facing window at the very West side of the 5th floor; it is the window directly under the one Rowland is supposed to have seen his "rifleman." CE486 is the photo of the South facing window on the East side of the building directly underneath the snipers nest.



 That being taken care of, how does any of that change the height of the windows, or the analysis comparing the height of the open window against what Rowland claimed to have seen?

[Walt Cakebread]

I stand corrected, at least as far as CE489. CE488 shows the South-facing window at the very West side of the 5th floor; it is the window directly under the one Rowland is supposed to have seen his "rifleman." CE486 is the photo of the South facing window on the East side of the building directly underneath the snipers nest.



 That being taken care of, how does any of that change the height of the windows, or the analysis comparing the height of the open window against what Rowland claimed to have seen?

Referring to CE 486....It's obvious that the west window would have allowed plenty of sunlight to enter the room and if the man was standing just a few feet back from the south window he would have been illuminated by the sun shining through the west window, and thus he would have been clearly visible to Arnold Rowland.