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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Backyard Photo Paradox
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2021, 09:28:29 PM »
No you're assumption is not correct.....

Will Fritz and many of the senior officers at DPD were conspirators.    Fritz knew about the BY photo before the murder of JFK.  He knew it would be a key piece of evidence in the framing of the patsy after the murder.  He may not have known that it was a fake photo, until Lee Oswald told him that he knew a bit about photography and the photo that Fritz was showing him was a fake.

This does NOT mean that CE 133A  and CE 133B are fakes.....  And I doubt that Lee was ever shown CE 133A and 133B at the DPD.   He only saw 133c ( the Geneva White photo) when Fritz displayed it to him.

The police displayed a BY photo to Mary Bledsoe on Saturday 11-23-63.....

Mr. BALL - But, you looked at the pictures of Oswald?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Yes.
Mr. BALL - Showed you the pictures of Oswald?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - The man down at the police station, he had a picture of him with a gun,

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Re: The Backyard Photo Paradox
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2021, 09:51:51 PM »
How do you explain this, Walt?

Mr. LIEBELER - Did the FBI or any other investigatory agency of the Government ever show you a picture of the rifle that was supposed to have been used to assassinate the President?
Mr. PAINE - They asked me at first, the first night of the assassination if I could locate, identify the place where Lee was standing when he was holding this rifle and some, the picture on the cover of Life.
Mr. LIEBELER - Were you able to?
Mr. PAINE - I identified the place by the fine clapboard structure of the house.
Mr. LIEBELER - By the what?
Mr. PAINE - By the small clapboard structure, the house has an unusually small clapboard.
Mr. LIEBELER - What did you identify the place as being?
Mr. PAINE - The Neely Street address. He didn't drive a car, so to have them over for dinner I had to go over and pick them up.

I see no problem.....When a person displays a photo as evidence , it's good police work to ask the person who is presenting the photo, what they know about the photo.....

Mike Paine presented the photo ( which i believe was the photo that Lee denounced as a fake,  photo 133c) and the cops asked him where he had got the photo and what he knew about it.

They asked the same questions that Liebeler asked.

Mr. PAINE - They asked me at first, the first night of the assassination if I could locate, identify the place where Lee was standing when he was holding this rifle and some, the picture on the cover of Life.
Mr. LIEBELER - Were you able to?
Mr. PAINE - I identified the place by the fine clapboard structure of the house.
Mr. LIEBELER - By the what?
Mr. PAINE - By the small clapboard structure, the house has an unusually small clapboard.
Mr. LIEBELER - What did you identify the place as being?
Mr. PAINE - The Neely Street address.

Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: The Backyard Photo Paradox
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2021, 11:27:42 PM »
There is no paradox here. All the BY photos were real but the money shot, CE-133a, was different from the rest. Oswald knew he was being sheep-dipped as the patsy, which is why the BY photos exist at all. I mean come on, the assassin poses for >7 photos (Marina only recalled taking 1) holding commie lit and both murder weapons? Give me a break.

As it was, the photos taken with the Imperial Reflex camera didn't resolve LHO's face well enough and you couldn't read the headline on the commie lit. That's why they took other photos at the same time with a different camera with a better lens. It's one of those photos that became the infamous CE-133a. Without a doubt, that photo was not taken with the Imperial Reflex camera. There is no way in hell that you can alter the spherical aberration of a lens by slightly changing the POV or the distance from the camera. Note the differences in distortion between the Imperial Reflex camera and the camera that took the money shot CE-133a below. These photos were taken at approx. the same distance from the camera and nearly the same POV.



These photos were not taken with the same camera, and being a photogrammetrist, I should know. This is why Oswald claimed the photo was a fake because his head had been enlarged and the shot was in focus with minimal spherical aberration. Oswald obviously did not have access to the photos that were taken with the other, higher quality camera and that CE-133a was planted with the rest to frame him as the patsy.

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Online Gerry Down

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Re: The Backyard Photo Paradox
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2021, 12:12:43 AM »
There is no paradox here. All the BY photos were real but the money shot, CE-133a, was different from the rest. Oswald knew he was being sheep-dipped as the patsy, which is why the BY photos exist at all. I mean come on, the assassin poses for >7 photos (Marina only recalled taking 1) holding commie lit and both murder weapons? Give me a break.

As it was, the photos taken with the Imperial Reflex camera didn't resolve LHO's face well enough and you couldn't read the headline on the commie lit. That's why they took other photos at the same time with a different camera with a better lens. It's one of those photos that became the infamous CE-133a. Without a doubt, that photo was not taken with the Imperial Reflex camera. There is no way in hell that you can alter the spherical aberration of a lens by slightly changing the POV or the distance from the camera. Note the differences in distortion between the Imperial Reflex camera and the camera that took the money shot CE-133a below. These photos were taken at approx. the same distance from the camera and nearly the same POV.



These photos were not taken with the same camera, and being a photogrammetrist, I should know. This is why Oswald claimed the photo was a fake because his head had been enlarged and the shot was in focus with minimal spherical aberration. Oswald obviously did not have access to the photos that were taken with the other, higher quality camera and that CE-133a was planted with the rest to frame him as the patsy.

What you're saying is is that all the backyard photos were blurry (ie you could not read the headlines on the paper) and so someone faked one photo, CE-133a, so that the headlines of the papers could be read which were then made out to be communist newspapers.

But what difference do the newspaper headlines really make? Isn't the main thing that he is holding the assassination rifle? Who cares about the newspaper headlines.

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Re: The Backyard Photo Paradox
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2021, 12:58:58 AM »
What you're saying is is that all the backyard photos were blurry (ie you could not read the headlines on the paper) and so someone faked one photo, CE-133a, so that the headlines of the papers could be read which were then made out to be communist newspapers.

All the photos were taken at the same time with both cameras. They made a judgement call whether to include any non-Imperial Reflex shots in the mix, depending how the Imperial Reflex shots turned out.

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But what difference do the newspaper headlines really make? Isn't the main thing that he is holding the assassination rifle? Who cares about the newspaper headlines.

Oswald was being sheep-dipped as a lone, rogue commie gunman, so as not to start any World Wars against the Commies. Hence the LN narrative throughout. IOWs, no conspiracy. Oswald was fully aware he was being set up as the patsy, but he was probably told by his handlers that he would be allowed to escape and given safe passage to Mexico. But he got double-crossed at the theater and the rest is history.

An interesting tidbit is that the wonky scope was left on the rifle so it would match the BYPs. But they forgot to sight it in, which is what any sharpshooter would have done prior to assassinating the POTUS.
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Backyard Photo Paradox
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2021, 02:28:58 AM »
There is no paradox here. All the BY photos were real but the money shot, CE-133a, was different from the rest. Oswald knew he was being sheep-dipped as the patsy, which is why the BY photos exist at all. I mean come on, the assassin poses for >7 photos (Marina only recalled taking 1) holding commie lit and both murder weapons? Give me a break.

As it was, the photos taken with the Imperial Reflex camera didn't resolve LHO's face well enough and you couldn't read the headline on the commie lit. That's why they took other photos at the same time with a different camera with a better lens. It's one of those photos that became the infamous CE-133a. Without a doubt, that photo was not taken with the Imperial Reflex camera. There is no way in hell that you can alter the spherical aberration of a lens by slightly changing the POV or the distance from the camera. Note the differences in distortion between the Imperial Reflex camera and the camera that took the money shot CE-133a below. These photos were taken at approx. the same distance from the camera and nearly the same POV.



These photos were not taken with the same camera, and being a photogrammetrist, I should know. This is why Oswald claimed the photo was a fake because his head had been enlarged and the shot was in focus with minimal spherical aberration. Oswald obviously did not have access to the photos that were taken with the other, higher quality camera and that CE-133a was planted with the rest to frame him as the patsy.

Oswald knew he was being sheep-dipped as the patsy, which is why the BY photos exist at all. I mean come on, the assassin poses for >7 photos (Marina only recalled taking 1) holding commie lit and both murder weapons?

So you believe that the plot to kill JFK was in motion in February of 1963????
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Re: The Backyard Photo Paradox
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2021, 10:00:06 AM »
All the photos of Lee Harvey Oswald have been determined to be authentic.