Then went inside with the curtain rods

[Rick Plant]

That didn't happen until around midnight, when he was being polygraphed.

Anybody who knows anything about polygraphs knows that a polygraph cannot be conducted with the subject under duress.....

Polygraphed ??.....  Those bastards merely went through the motions and tricked an ignorant kid into believing that he was on record ( The polygraph chart ) that he had seen the arch villain  Lee Harrrrvey  Ossssswald (BOOOOO HISSSSS)  carrying a long brown paper bag that morning.   Since the "polygraph" had recorded his admission, and the officers, had suggested that he couldn't be held as an accomplice because he didn't know the sack held a broken down rifle.

 

Frazier passed a polygraph test. But you are making up your own stories as you go along.   

[Richard Smith]

Frazier's DPD interrogation and WC testimony obviously took place AFTER he realized that Oswald was a suspect. 

Really? What's so obvious about it as far as his DPD interrogation goes?

Once they haul him into the DPD he obviously knows that he is caught up in the assassination investigation via his connection to Oswald.  What difference does it make what he thought before he knew Oswald was a suspect?

Again, what's so obvious about it? When he was arrested, it could well have been for him not being present when they wanted to talk to all the people who had been on the 6th floor. Do you really think the investigators would just tell him it had something to do with Oswald? Are you that naive? In his HSCA interview, Frazier confirmed that the officers who arrested him did not tell him anything about Oswald and that he only found out Oswald had been arrested after they brought him back to DPD headquarters in Dallas.

It is obvious that Frazier would want to distance himself from any conclusion that he had a basis to suspect that Oswald was up to something that morning.

That's the third time you've used the word "obvious" when there is nothing obvious about it. Frazier did nothing wrong and wasn't aware of any potential legal problems until he was arrested at the hospital. As an innocent man all he needed to do was tell the investigators what happened, which basically is that he gave a co-worker a ride to work. There was no reason for him to concoct any kind of story and there was no opportunity or need for him to synchronize his story with his sister.

So if his story is slanted then it is in the direction of downplaying anything suspicious about Oswald's behavior.

If?

This is complete biased selfserving BS. You first assume that Frazier must have been suspicious about Oswald's trip to Irving, he then must have been suspicious about the package and finally he must have instantly understood that his involvement with Oswald could be a problem for the investigators. Then, and only then, would this so described "dumb ass" get to the point that he needed to make up some story, synchronize it with his sister, rather than just telling the truth. It is so far fetched that it is completely idiotic.

But two good ole boys drove to work in silence.

Oswald was known as the silent type. Not very talkative and keeping very much to himself. So what if they drove to work in silence? The fact that you can not imagine a drive by two people who do not talk is your problem.

You entertain every manner of outlandish, baseless counter possibility to any evidence that links Oswald to the assassination.  But here you suddenly take long winded exception with an obvious point.  That Frazier would want to distance himself from the implication that he knew or perhaps should have known that Oswald's behavior was suspicious that morning.  That's "obvious" unless you believe that Frazier wanted to go to jail or be forever blamed by public opinion for not being more suspicious of Oswald's out of character behavior.

Again, I'm not saying that Frazier should have found his behavior suspicious only that there were grounds for Frazier to be concerned since he had driven the assassin and his weapon to the crime scene.  And you don't believe Frazier had grounds to know that Oswald was the assassin by the time he was taken in and interviewed by the DPD!  Hilarious.  Oswald had been arrested by that point.  Frazier indicated that he heard that "Lee Harvey Oswald" had been arrested in connection with the assassination on his car radio.  Frazier may have been surprised that they wanted to talk to him again but there is no doubt that he knew Oswald was a suspect.  Even if he didn't, he quickly would have become aware of that since that is what the DPD started asking him about.  Good grief.

[Walt Cakebread]

Frazier passed a polygraph test. But you are making up your own stories as you go along.

Your ignorance is hangin out a country mile, Rick....  A polygraph test cannot be given to a subject who isn't calm and relaxed....

That's very easy to check....Check it out and perhaps then you won't appear to be so stupid.

[Martin Weidmann]

You entertain every manner of outlandish, baseless counter possibility to any evidence that links Oswald to the assassination.  But here you suddenly take long winded exception with an obvious point.  That Frazier would want to distance himself from the implication that he knew or perhaps should have known that Oswald's behavior was suspicious that morning.  That's "obvious" unless you believe that Frazier wanted to go to jail or be forever blamed by public opinion for not being more suspicious of Oswald's out of character behavior.

Again, I'm not saying that Frazier should have found his behavior suspicious only that there were grounds for Frazier to be concerned since he had driven the assassin and his weapon to the crime scene.  And you don't believe Frazier had grounds to know that Oswald was the assassin by the time he was taken in and interviewed by the DPD!  Hilarious.  Oswald had been arrested by that point.  Frazier indicated that he heard that "Lee Harvey Oswald" had been arrested in connection with the assassination on his car radio.  Frazier may have been surprised that they wanted to talk to him again but there is no doubt that he knew Oswald was a suspect.  Even if he didn't, he quickly would have become aware of that since that is what the DPD started asking him about.  Good grief.

You entertain every manner of outlandish, baseless counter possibility to any evidence that links Oswald to the assassination.

No. Unlike you, I have an open mind and entertain every possibility, including the one where Oswald was the lone gunman. I just want to see conclusive evidence rather than your usual speculations and assumptions.

But here you suddenly take long winded exception with an obvious point. 

Stop whining. If you have a case to make, present it, but don't give me a bunch of selfserving BS speculations.

That Frazier would want to distance himself from the implication that he knew or perhaps should have known that Oswald's behavior was suspicious that morning.  That's "obvious" unless you believe that Frazier wanted to go to jail or be forever blamed by public opinion for not being more suspicious of Oswald's out of character behavior.

There is nothing obvious about it. Why would Frazier fear that he would go to jail or be blamed by anybody when all he did was drive a co-worker to work?

Again, I'm not saying that Frazier should have found his behavior suspicious only that there were grounds for Frazier to be concerned since he had driven the assassin and his weapon to the crime scene.

Complete BS. If you go down this rabbit hole, Ruth Paine should also be concerned because she allegedly stored and concealed the murder weapon in her garage.

And you don't believe Frazier had grounds to know that Oswald was the assassin by the time he was taken in and interviewed by the DPD!  Hilarious.

What grounds? Frazier said in his HSCA interview that he only found out that Oswald had been arrested when the officers who detained him at the hospital brought him to DPD headquarters in Dallas. So, on what grounds would Frazier know that "Oswald was the assassin"? Just because he carried a paper bag that morning, which as far as Frazier knew contained curtain rods.... Yeah, that makes sense.... pfffffffff

Frazier indicated that he heard that "Lee Harvey Oswald" had been arrested in connection with the assassination on his car radio

Yes, but he also indicated that he did not know Lee's last name until after the assassination, and he did not put two and two together. With hindsight you may think that he should have put it together, but that's only your bias opinion.

Frazier may have been surprised that they wanted to talk to him again but there is no doubt that he knew Oswald was a suspect. 

No doubt? In your mind probably... I don't believe for a second that Frazier knew that Oswald was a suspect, even after they brought him back to Dallas. All he knew at that moment was that Oswald had been arrested. He may well have thought it was for the same reason as they arrested him, for not being present when the police wanted to talk to all TSBD workers who had been on the 6th floor.

And what do you mean by "that they wanted to talk to him again"? DPD officers had not talked to Frazier at all prior to his arrest at the hospital!

Even if he didn't, he quickly would have become aware of that since that is what the DPD started asking him about.

This is probably true, but it means that Frazier had no way of synchronizing his story with his sister prior to being interviewed and polygraphed at DPD HQ on Friday evening, which of course blows your entire theory (that he went to Irving to get his story straight with his sister) out of the water!

Good grief.

Indeed

[John Iacoletti]

You entertain every manner of outlandish, baseless counter possibility to any evidence that links Oswald to the assassination.  But here you suddenly take long winded exception with an obvious point.

When "Richard" speculates, it's "obvious".  When somebody else speculates, it's "outlandish".

[Alan Ford]

If Mr Frazier wanted to minimize the trouble he was in, he could have just said 'I didn't notice any package'.

His description of a ~27-inch package is most sensibly explained by the inference that he saw a ~27-inch package.

And the fact that two curtain rods were documented as having been submitted for fingerprint testing for Mr Oswald's prints 3/15/64 and released back 3/24/64 is most sensibly explained by the inference that two curtain rods were found in the Depository building after the assassination.

 

[Walt Cakebread]

If Mr Frazier wanted to minimize the trouble he was in, he could have just said 'I didn't notice any package'.

His description of a ~27-inch package is most sensibly explained by the inference that he saw a ~27-inch package.

And the fact that two curtain rods were documented as having been submitted for fingerprint testing for Mr Oswald's prints 3/15/64 and released back 3/24/64 is most sensibly explained by the inference that two curtain rods were found in the Depository building after the assassination.

 

If Mr Frazier wanted to minimize the trouble he was in, he could have just said 'I didn't notice any package'.

But the Cops told him that Lee Oswald had said that the brown paper sack he carried that morning contained curtain rods.  Buell was just a dumb kid and scared to death so he saw no danger in agreeing with "Lee's Story.".....   But Lee had never said anything about curtain rods.    But How was Buell to know ..... He believed the cops and he still does. 

[Richard Smith]

You entertain every manner of outlandish, baseless counter possibility to any evidence that links Oswald to the assassination.

No. Unlike you, I have an open mind and entertain every possibility, including the one where Oswald was the lone gunman. I just want to see conclusive evidence rather than your usual speculations and assumptions.

But here you suddenly take long winded exception with an obvious point. 

Stop whining. If you have a case to make, present it, but don't give me a bunch of selfserving BS speculations.

That Frazier would want to distance himself from the implication that he knew or perhaps should have known that Oswald's behavior was suspicious that morning.  That's "obvious" unless you believe that Frazier wanted to go to jail or be forever blamed by public opinion for not being more suspicious of Oswald's out of character behavior.

There is nothing obvious about it. Why would Frazier fear that he would go to jail or be blamed by anybody when all he did was drive a co-worker to work?

Again, I'm not saying that Frazier should have found his behavior suspicious only that there were grounds for Frazier to be concerned since he had driven the assassin and his weapon to the crime scene.

Complete BS. If you go down this rabbit hole, Ruth Paine should also be concerned because she allegedly stored and concealed the murder weapon in her garage.

And you don't believe Frazier had grounds to know that Oswald was the assassin by the time he was taken in and interviewed by the DPD!  Hilarious.

What grounds? Frazier said in his HSCA interview that he only found out that Oswald had been arrested when the officers who detained him at the hospital brought him to DPD headquarters in Dallas. So, on what grounds would Frazier know that "Oswald was the assassin"? Just because he carried a paper bag that morning, which as far as Frazier knew contained curtain rods.... Yeah, that makes sense.... pfffffffff

Frazier indicated that he heard that "Lee Harvey Oswald" had been arrested in connection with the assassination on his car radio

Yes, but he also indicated that he did not know Lee's last name until after the assassination, and he did not put two and two together. With hindsight you may think that he should have put it together, but that's only your bias opinion.

Frazier may have been surprised that they wanted to talk to him again but there is no doubt that he knew Oswald was a suspect. 

No doubt? In your mind probably... I don't believe for a second that Frazier knew that Oswald was a suspect, even after they brought him back to Dallas. All he knew at that moment was that Oswald had been arrested. He may well have thought it was for the same reason as they arrested him, for not being present when the police wanted to talk to all TSBD workers who had been on the 6th floor.

And what do you mean by "that they wanted to talk to him again"? DPD officers had not talked to Frazier at all prior to his arrest at the hospital!

Even if he didn't, he quickly would have become aware of that since that is what the DPD started asking him about.

This is probably true, but it means that Frazier had no way of synchronizing his story with his sister prior to being interviewed and polygraphed at DPD HQ on Friday evening, which of course blows your entire theory (that he went to Irving to get his story straight with his sister) out of the water!

Good grief.

Indeed

So many words.  You suggest Frazier was "arrested" and then argue he had no cause to be concerned about being connected to Oswald.  Comedy gold.  LOL.