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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #280 on: February 04, 2021, 03:23:41 PM »
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I'm sure it makes perfect sense to you, but I am having a hard time understanding why Oswald would make a paper bag at the TSBD (and risk being caught, doing it), when he previously transported the MC rifle unnoticed to New Orleans on public transport and thus already had a successful means to conceal the weapon.

Why would he go through the trouble of making a bag when he had at least one duffle bag in Ruth Paine's garage he could have used?

He was planning on assassinating the President and you think he would be deterred by the "risk" of making a paper bag?  Wow.   What "risk" would that entail?  If anyone asked what he was doing (and who would care?) all he had to do is come up with some lie like he did with Frazier.  And why are you so hung on this bag?  Even if you believe there is some doubt that Oswald carried the rifle in his bag that morning (and there is no real doubt on this point) his rifle was found on the 6th floor.   Only a very small number of adults had access to the location where he kept his rifle in the Paine's garage.  None of those people were at the TSBD.  The only person who had access to that rifle and the building where it was found was Oswald.  This is not Sherlock Holmes material.  If you want to believe he smuggled the rifle into the building on some prior occasion or some other way, then knock yourself out.  It really doesn't matter HOW he got the rifle into the building but the FACT that his rifle was found in the building that matters.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #280 on: February 04, 2021, 03:23:41 PM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #281 on: February 04, 2021, 03:29:08 PM »
Tell it to your hero Oswald since he denied carrying any curtain rods or bag that size.

A point already addressed at least a dozen times in this thread alone. But on you go, with that studied LNer cluelessness of yours  :D

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #282 on: February 04, 2021, 03:31:14 PM »
He was planning on assassinating the President and you think he would be deterred by the "risk" of making a paper bag?  Wow.   What "risk" would that entail?  If anyone asked what he was doing (and who would care?) all he had to do is come up with some lie like he did with Frazier.  And why are you so hung on this bag?  Even if you believe there is some doubt that Oswald carried the rifle in his bag that morning (and there is no real doubt on this point) his rifle was found on the 6th floor.   Only a very small number of adults had access to the location where he kept his rifle in the Paine's garage.  None of those people were at the TSBD.  The only person who had access to that rifle and the building where it was found was Oswald.  This is not Sherlock Holmes material.  If you want to believe he smuggled the rifle into the building on some prior occasion or some other way, then knock yourself out.  It really doesn't matter HOW he got the rifle into the building but the FACT that his rifle was found in the building that matters.

'Because LHO must have shot Kennedy, he must have brought that rifle into the building. Because LHO must have brought that rifle into the building, he must have shot Kennedy.' Real Sherlock Holmes material there, Mr Smith

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #282 on: February 04, 2021, 03:31:14 PM »


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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #283 on: February 04, 2021, 03:36:16 PM »
A point already addressed at least a dozen times in this thread alone. But on you go, with that studied LNer cluelessness of yours  :D

Says the guy who has posted the exact same form at least a thousands times.  It's a fact that Oswald denied carrying any curtain rods to the police despite telling Frazier that is what he had in his bag.  It's a fact that Oswald told the police that he had only his lunch but Frazier indicated he specifically asked Oswald about his lunch and Oswald confirmed that he did not bring it that day.  So why is your hero lying to the police or Frazier about these mundane matters.  He is lying to one or the other.  Why would he lie to the police about having curtain rods?  That was no crime and he had every incentive to direct the police to them but instead he acts against his own self interest by denying that he carried any curtain rods even though Frazier could have corroborated that story.  And what explanation is there for this strange long bag found with Oswald's prints on it.  It is found next to the SN.  There was no apparent work-related purpose for any such bag in that building.  It appears to be singular as no other such bag was found or can be seen in any pictures.  No one else who worked in the building gave any explanation for such a bag or explained its presence.  There is one obvious explanation for it.  Guess what that is?
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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #284 on: February 04, 2021, 03:41:03 PM »
'Because LHO must have shot Kennedy, he must have brought that rifle into the building. Because LHO must have brought that rifle into the building, he must have shot Kennedy.' Real Sherlock Holmes material there, Mr Smith

Huh? What manner of rambling is that?  Fact: JFK was assassinated with a rifle.  Fact:  Witnesses saw a rifle in the SN window in the TSBD.  Fact: Oswald's rifle was found on that floor.  This is not very complicated.   Oswald's rifle is found at the murder scene!  There is no exculpatory explanation for its presence at that location.  In fact, Oswald lies about his ownership of the rifle even though it is linked to him via a serial number.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #285 on: February 04, 2021, 04:09:04 PM »
Your star witness got a good look at a shortened bag. Saw even less of the bag while being left in the dust by the speeding Oswald.

"Speeding Oswald".  Another wild claim.  The hits keep on coming.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #286 on: February 04, 2021, 04:10:40 PM »
When I take note of an Oswald-lover kneeling at Oswald's grave

Says the guy who visited his father's grave.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #286 on: February 04, 2021, 04:10:40 PM »


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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #287 on: February 04, 2021, 04:12:36 PM »
Here, I'll soften that for you:
1) Oswald got the draw on Tippit and probably shot Kennedy
2) Oswald got the draw on Tippit and probably shot at Kennedy

Even "softened", it's still an unsubstantiated claim.