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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #160 on: February 01, 2021, 02:26:57 PM »
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Your conclusion notwithstanding, it still remains to be seen if that's even true.

Several people from both murder scenes can confirm the truth of the matter for you.

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #161 on: February 01, 2021, 02:30:48 PM »
Several people from both murder scenes can confirm the truth of the matter for you.

Yer FOS Chappie....

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #162 on: February 01, 2021, 02:49:43 PM »
Several people from both murder scenes can confirm the truth of the matter for you.

Really?   :D

It also remains to be seen if that's even true.
« Last Edit: February 01, 2021, 02:54:13 PM by Martin Weidmann »

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #163 on: February 01, 2021, 04:01:37 PM »
Not a shred of evidence! You should be ashamed.

Really? What evidence, in the JFK murder, other than a MC rifle - that can be tentatively linked to Oswald - is there?

Everything else you have presented is a concocted narrative based on mere speculation and assumptions and none of it comes even remotely close to being evidence of the MC rifle having been in the bag Oswald carried on Friday morning.

Just like Bugliosi's "he left his wedding ring in Irving, so he must have killed the President", your "he went to a movie, so he must have killed JFK", is also the "reasoning" of a 5 year old with brain damage.
 
As per usual you present an extremely weak circumstantial case, based on highly questionable information, misrepresentations of the evidence and false claims, to reach a flawed predetermined conclusion, which you subsequently use to argue that the MC rifle must have been in the bag, because in your limited brain capacity there is no room for alternative explanations. That's not evidence.... it's wishful thinking....A fairytale from la la land.

With enough assumptions and speculations, while ignoring the implications of the actual evidence, you can always come to the conclusion you want to reach. With enough assumptions and speculations I can easily make the case that your father paid for the killing of JFK to punish your mother for not having an abortion and leaving us stuck with you. Now, that would be a defense!

The bottom line, as far as the JFK murder is concerned, is that the only piece of physical evidence there is, is the MC rifle that was found on the 6th floor of the TSBD. That's it! You can not place that rifle in Ruth Paine's garage, nor can you place it in the bag Frazier saw. You can't even prove that the rifle was fired on 11/22/63 nor can you place Oswald conclusively on the 6th floor at 12:30 PM and you have no plausible explanation for how he ended up in the 2nd floor lunchroom 90 seconds after the last shot or how he could have come down the stairs without being seen by Dorothy Garner on the 4th floor.

What a bizarre and kooky response.  Imagine making a case for innocence to a jury when the murder weapon is found at the scene of a crime, it is linked via documents and serial number to an individual who works at that building, his wife confirms he owns a rifle, he has no alibi or explanation for the rifle's presence there, and even lies about owning a rifle even though there are recent pictures of him holding a rifle.  HA HA HA.   And he also flees the scene and is identified by multiple individuals as the person who murdered a police officer within an hour.  Wow.  And it is only "circumstantial"!  HA HA HA.  Such a profound ignorance of what "circumstantial evidence" actually means.  It is often the best kind of evidence (prints, DNA etc) in solving a crime.  And as criminals often take measures to conceal their activities is frequently used to convict individuals.   It would take a jury about 30 seconds to bring back a guilty verdict. 

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #164 on: February 01, 2021, 04:03:29 PM »
Really?   :D

It also remains to be seen if that's even true.

In CT Wonderland, located on the far shores of the lunatic fringe, nothing is knowable, nothing is provable, and nothing is believable. 

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« Reply #164 on: February 01, 2021, 04:03:29 PM »


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #165 on: February 01, 2021, 04:58:53 PM »
In CT Wonderland, located on the far shores of the lunatic fringe, nothing is knowable, nothing is provable, and nothing is believable.

In CT Wonderland, nothing is knowable, nothing is provable, and nothing is believable.

Pssst Chappie.... Extract your head and pay attention.....

I'll present just one item that refutes your statement that "nothing is provable"......

It's very easy to prove that Lee Oswald could not have reached across the wide gap ( about 5 feet) and placed the carcano on the floor ( about four feet down ) from the aisle a the top of the stairs in the NW corner of the 6th floor.


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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #166 on: February 01, 2021, 05:20:09 PM »
Not a shred of evidence! You should be ashamed.

Really? What evidence, in the JFK murder, other than a MC rifle - that can be tentatively linked to Oswald - is there?

Everything else you have presented is a concocted narrative based on mere speculation and assumptions and none of it comes even remotely close to being evidence of the MC rifle having been in the bag Oswald carried on Friday morning.

Just like Bugliosi's "he left his wedding ring in Irving, so he must have killed the President", your "he went to a movie, so he must have killed JFK", is also the "reasoning" of a 5 year old with brain damage.
 
As per usual you present an extremely weak circumstantial case, based on highly questionable information, misrepresentations of the evidence and false claims, to reach a flawed predetermined conclusion, which you subsequently use to argue that the MC rifle must have been in the bag, because in your limited brain capacity there is no room for alternative explanations. That's not evidence.... it's wishful thinking....A fairytale from la la land.

With enough assumptions and speculations, while ignoring the implications of the actual evidence, you can always come to the conclusion you want to reach. With enough assumptions and speculations I can easily make the case that your father paid for the killing of JFK to punish your mother for not having an abortion and leaving us stuck with you. Now, that would be a defense!

The bottom line, as far as the JFK murder is concerned, is that the only piece of physical evidence there is, is the MC rifle that was found on the 6th floor of the TSBD. That's it! You can not place that rifle in Ruth Paine's garage, nor can you place it in the bag Frazier saw. You can't even prove that the rifle was fired on 11/22/63 nor can you place Oswald conclusively on the 6th floor at 12:30 PM and you have no plausible explanation for how he ended up in the 2nd floor lunchroom 90 seconds after the last shot or how he could have come down the stairs without being seen by Dorothy Garner on the 4th floor.

There is no evidence of the bag containing curtain rods which Oswald denies bringing to work. Then either Oswald had a pancake for lunch or he didn't see the bag carried from the front, as he said in testimony.

You’ve just quoted Bugliosi as saying "he left his wedding ring in Irving, so he must have killed the President”. Cite that, please. And show us where anyone other than you said "he went to a movie, so he must have killed JFK"
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Re: Then went inside with the curtain rods
« Reply #167 on: February 01, 2021, 05:39:13 PM »
In CT Wonderland, nothing is knowable, nothing is provable, and nothing is believable.

Pssst Chappie.... Extract your head and pay attention.....

I'll present just one item that refutes your statement that "nothing is provable"......

It's very easy to prove that Lee Oswald could not have reached across the wide gap ( about 5 feet) and placed the carcano on the floor ( about four feet down ) from the aisle a the top of the stairs in the NW corner of the 6th floor.

You must be in your LNer mode: If you believe things are provable, then I guess you don't reside on the far shores of the lunatic fringe after all.  ;)