Then went inside with the curtain rods

[Martin Weidmann]

Frazier had ample opportunity to get his story straight with his sister.  In one interview, he indicated that he called her from the hospital.  In addition, she was at the police station with him for hours and Fritz apparently questioned them together around 9PM.  The larger point, however, which you had disputed is that Frazier obviously knew Oswald was a suspect in the JFK assassination prior to being questioned by Fritz.  All of his answers would have been given with the knowledge that he had driven the suspected assassin to the TSBD that morning.

Frazier had ample opportunity to get his story straight with his sister.

Stop contradicting yourself. If Frazier was not aware of the fact that DPD were looking for him until they detained him at the hospital, he had no reason to get his story straight with his sister.

In one interview, he indicated that he called her from the hospital

In what interview would that be?

In addition, she was at the police station with him for hours and Fritz apparently questioned them together around 9PM.

Really? And where did you get this information? Police officers are normally not in the habit of letting witnesses/suspects talk to eachother prior to being interviewed.

Would this be the interview where Fritz put a pre-written confession before Frazier for him to sign?

The larger point, however, which you had disputed is that Frazier obviously knew Oswald was a suspect in the JFK assassination prior to being questioned by Fritz.

For crying out loud. I never disputed that. He must have become aware of the information somewhere between his detention at the hospital at 6 PM and his interview with Fritz and his subsequent polygraph. But by that time there was no way he could communicate with his sister. In other words, if his statement would differ from hers, because he was lying (as you claim) he would have to fear the consequences than he would by telling the truth.

All of his answers would have been given with the knowledge that he had driven the suspected assassin to the TSBD that morning.

I wonder if that's even true, because Oswald wasn't charged with JFK's murder until shortly before midnight. Frazier might have know Oswald was in custody by 9 PM, but he had no way of knowing for what exactly. As far as he was concered, all he did was drive a co-worker to work and they guy carried a 27" bag which contained curtain rods. There is nothing illegal or criminal about that.

[Colin Crow]

I actually do not think that. Oswald wasn't yet arrested when Frazier left the TSBD and he would have arrived in Irving before Oswald's name was broadcast. On the short trip to Irving hospital, there is a minimal possibility that he might have heard it, but he told the HSCA that he didn't even know Lee's surname at that time.

As soon as Oswald's name was broadcast, about 2.40, the Frazier family knew of the peril Buell was in. Frazier knew Lee was missing before he left. He knew that employees would tell the cops Lee got a ride with him. There were cops half a block away at the Paine's after 2.30pm. He and his sister could have walked there and talked to them. After he left home his mother was visited by some cops looking for him. She could have called the hospital to alert brother and sister. What we got was the bogus hospital trip to visit his abusive step father.....

[Colin Crow]

Looks like LMR was pretty quick to work things out......



From her Nov28 SS interview.

[Rick Plant]

This is really, really simple.  There's no need for any long winded contrarian mumbo jumbo.  Who said Frazier had "instant" knowledge of Oswald's guilt.  Try to focus. There is no doubt that by the time Frazier was questioned by the DPD approximately nine hours after the assassination that he knew Oswald was a suspect.  Obviously, he also knew that he had driven Oswald to work that morning and that Oswald carried a long narrow bag that could have contained a rifle.  Therefore, he had grounds to be concerned about whether he would be implicated and his answers to any questions would reflect that concern.

 

Nice disinformation.

Frazier was not questioned "nine hours" after the assassination happened.

Frazier left work after it was shutdown for the day and headed directly to the hospital to visit his step father.

On the way to the hospital he learned that Oswald was a suspect in the assassination.

Frazier was at the hospital no more than 20 minutes before the detectives took him to the station for questioning and that was in the afternoon. He was being interrogated all evening long.

According to your bogus claim, Frazier wouldn't have been interrogated until 10:30 PM and that is blatantly false. He was let go at midnight.           

[Rick Plant]

Frazier had ample opportunity to get his story straight with his sister.

Wrong. Frazier did not have "ample time to get his story straight with his sister". Right after he was let out of work Frazier headed directly to the hospital and phoned his sister. Not long after that the detectives arrived to take him in. That is not "ample time".         

In one interview, he indicated that he called her from the hospital. In addition, she was at the police station with him for hours and Fritz apparently questioned them together around 9PM. The larger point, however, which you had disputed is that Frazier obviously knew Oswald was a suspect in the JFK assassination prior to being questioned by Fritz.  All of his answers would have been given with the knowledge that he had driven the suspected assassin to the TSBD that morning.

A lot of spin here with no facts. This is Richard creating his own events of what he wants you to believe happened. 

Frazier was not "arrested" until after 6PM.  Four hours after Oswald is taken into custody.  Frazier is not interrogated until after 9PM.

Wrong again. Frazier was taken to the station in the afternoon when he was at the hospital for a short amount of time. Frazier was already being interrogated for hours before 9 PM.         

The DPD wanted to talk with him that night for that reason.  He knew that.  He knew when he answered those questions that he was in potential trouble.  Frazier is the Ned Spangler of the JFK assassination.  He had good cause to be concerned that the police or public would attempt to hold him accountable based on what he had knew prior to the assassination.  So his answers are potentially skewed with an obvious desire to distance himself from any reason to be suspicious of Oswald's behavior. As a result, he wasn't paying much attention that morning, no talk, just driving in silence.

More spin of what Richard wants you to believe.

Frazier was interrogated by different sets of detectives and was thoroughly grilled. They all knew Frazier knew nothing and they let him go. Otherwise they would have booked him as a suspect and co-conspirator.   

[Colin Crow]

Nice disinformation.

Frazier was not questioned "nine hours" after the assassination happened.

Frazier left work after it was shutdown for the day and headed directly to the hospital to visit his step father.

On the way to the hospital he learned that Oswald was a suspect in the assassination.

Frazier was at the hospital no more than 20 minutes before the detectives took him to the station for questioning and that was in the afternoon. He was being interrogated all evening long.

According to your bogus claim, Frazier wouldn't have been interrogated until 10:30 PM and that is blatantly false. He was let go at midnight.         

Please read my posts Rick. Frazier did not go immediately to the hospital. That story is bogus.

Mr. BALL. You brought Ruth Paine and Marina down to the police department, did you?
Mr. ROSE. Yes; we took Ruth Paine and Marina and Marina's two children in our car and also the blanket--I carried it.
Mr. BALL. And the rest of that day you spent in inquiring for and looking around for Wesley Frazier?
Mr. ROSE. Well, we came on back to the city hall and we took Ruth Paine and Michael Paine and Marina Oswald to the homicide office, but it was so crowded that we transferred them to the forgery bureau office next door, and then someone came over and I believe it was the Detective Senkel, to take affidavits from them and I immediately started trying to locate Wesley Frazier. We were told that he would be at Parkland Hospital, but we checked through Parkland and there was no Fraziers there and I started a heck of the clinics and the doctors' offices in Irving, and I located through one of the nurses, I believe, or talked to someone on the phone there that Mr. Frazier was in the hospital there at Irving Clinic, so I called Detective McCabe in Irving and that Wesley was the one that had brought Lee Oswald to work that morning.

Why didn’t Rose simply call LMR to determine the hospital once Parland wasn’t the one?

[Colin Crow]

Considering that Rose and Stovall reported that it was McCabe who arrested Frazier at the hospital and they picked him up at the Irving PD does this compensate some of the time loss? Why would Frazier completely remove McCabe from his recounting of the events, even in his HSCA interview?