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Online Dan O'meara

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« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2021, 11:58:57 AM »
In the back of the head photo his hair is short, in the one where his scalp is hanging down his hair is very long
I assume that they cut the hair to identify the entrance wound in the scalp.

That would make sense.
This would tell us the pic you originally posted was the last pic taken in terms of chronology.

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« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2021, 12:07:29 PM »
I was trying to read what is printed on that 30 cm ruler but without success. It would be the key detail in determining if the photos are genuine or not. I believe that this photos are NOT from JFK autopsy because of the ruler and other details. Who ever published this photos was most probably searching through autopsy photos files to find most suitable to JFK wounds.

If anybody finds interesting, try to read what is printed on the ruler.

"Who ever published this photos was most probably searching through autopsy photos files to find most suitable to JFK wounds."

 The title of this thread concerns a very specific aspect of JFK's head injury - the "Bone Flap".
The BF has been shown to be clearly present in the Z-film and is part of the utterly catastrophic nature of this injury.
The notion that someone had a look through autopsy photos and found a white male of the appropriate age and build with a similar catastrophic head injury, a part of which was this very distinctive Bone Flap, is so ridiculous it pains me to have to waste my time pointing it out.
The photo is fake because you can't make out what's on the ruler??
Really?

The next time you shave I recommend Occam's Razor.

Offline Patrick Jackson

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« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2021, 02:41:01 PM »
"Who ever published this photos was most probably searching through autopsy photos files to find most suitable to JFK wounds."

 The title of this thread concerns a very specific aspect of JFK's head injury - the "Bone Flap".
The BF has been shown to be clearly present in the Z-film and is part of the utterly catastrophic nature of this injury.
The notion that someone had a look through autopsy photos and found a white male of the appropriate age and build with a similar catastrophic head injury, a part of which was this very distinctive Bone Flap, is so ridiculous it pains me to have to waste my time pointing it out.
The photo is fake because you can't make out what's on the ruler??
Really?

The next time you shave I recommend Occam's Razor.

The only thing that might be ridiculous is that as a "Hero Member" you did not realize that there are huge number of evidences and "evidences" that are disputed for six decades. But lets be constructive, do you even know who and when published autopsy photos?

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: "Bone Flap"
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2021, 03:44:43 PM »
The only thing that might be ridiculous is that as a "Hero Member" you did not realize that there are huge number of evidences and "evidences" that are disputed for six decades. But lets be constructive, do you even know who and when published autopsy photos?

You're quite right Patrick,
I was completely unaware there was evidence that whoever "published this photos was most probably searching through autopsy photos files to find most suitable to JFK wounds."
Can you point me to that evidence please.
On the other hand, if this is something you've just completely made up based on zero evidence, could you clarify that.

Thanks.

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« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2021, 04:22:59 PM »
History of the Autopsy photo's

Credit: JFK Lancer

For research purposes only.

    President Kennedy's Autopsy was carried out at Bethesda Naval Hospital on November 22-23, 1963. The official autopsy photographs have never been published and are under seal at the National Archives.

    On November 23, 1963, James K. Fox, photographer with the Intelligence Division of the US Secret Service, was given the autopsy film holders by JFK's personal physician, Admiral George Burkley, and told to develop them. On three occassions, he supervised their processing. According to Fox, Secret Service Agent Roy Kellerman said to make himself copies as they would be history someday. He made three sets of black and white autopsy photo prints at the Secret Service lab. On November 27, 1963, additional official copies were made at the National Photographic Interpretation Center (NPIC).

    In 1981, those pictures were sold to JFK researcher Mark Crouch. During this time copies of the photos were given to several JFK researchers. Fox died in 1987. Writer David Lifton published the Fox set in "Best Evidence" (1988 Carrol & Graf Reprint). Later the photos were published in other books. Crouch retired from research in 1993 and sold his JFK assassination collection, including negatives made from the photos, to researcher Walt Brown who continues to make them available to researchers.

    In 1992, the official autopsy photos were specifically exempted from the JFK Records Act and will not be released. ARRB Senior Staffer Doug Horne stated that after viewing digital copies of the original photos, he noted the Fox unofficial photos are cropped differently and are degraded as compared to the originals in the National Archives but are basically the same. Some photos taken at the autopsy missing and are not now a part of the official collection. Horne's further, specific comments on the photos are available here. (1998 JFK Lancer Conference)

    The color photos were obtained by JFK researcher and amateur photographer Robert Groden who served as an upaid consultant to the House Select Committee on Assassinations. Groden photographed the color autopsy photos without permission. Groden was paid by "The Globe" tabloid at their 1991 printing of those photos and has also published them in his books.

    The photos below on our website are the "Lifton" copies named as he included them in his book, "Best Evidence". The X-rays are exhibits from the HSCA hearings and were obtained by JFK Lancer from the National Archives.

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« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2021, 08:59:38 PM »
You're quite right Patrick,
I was completely unaware there was evidence that whoever "published this photos was most probably searching through autopsy photos files to find most suitable to JFK wounds."
Can you point me to that evidence please.
On the other hand, if this is something you've just completely made up based on zero evidence, could you clarify that.

Thanks.
No, I cannot provide you with the evidence same as you cannot provide evidences for your claims. After all, I wrote "most probably" and as you can see from Robin respond we are constantly reading said, heard, told, made copies, copies, copies... Is there a single, solid proof that this are genuine autopsy photos? No.

What I wrote is based on numerous discussions, inconsistent testimonies, lack of solid proofs and details seen on the photos. For example, the ruler seen on the photos is MOST PROBABLY a white plastic promo ruler popular during 60s, 70s, 80s. Do you expect to see a plastic promo ruler at Bathesda Naval Hospital? No. Do you expect to see Centimetres only ruler in US? No. Same with latex gloves which were introduced bit after the November 1963.

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: "Bone Flap"
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2021, 09:22:10 PM »
No, I cannot provide you with the evidence same as you cannot provide evidences for your claims.

What claims?