The Shot That Missed

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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: The Shot That Missed
« Reply #63 on: January 08, 2021, 03:52:16 PM »
And then the second shot was fired, and that is when the people started falling on the ground and the motorcade car jumped forward, and then the third shot was fired right behind the second one.


"And then the second shot was fired, and that is when the people started falling on the ground and the motorcade car jumped forward, and then the third shot was fired right behind the second one."

The motorcade car jumped forward after the headshot. In this account it was Jarman's "second shot"

John Iacoletti posted BRW statement before he added a shot to his narrative. Many of these witnesses would later add a shot.
Thanks. Yes, I recall seeing that Williams' affidavit before but I forgot all about it.

Jarman's account is hard to muddle through. But he said he heard three shots. A third shot AFTER the head shot? And we have Harold Norman, standing right below the window, saying in a 12/4/63 deposition and in his testimony he heard three.

It's maddening to realize these men were standing/squatting right below the window and one heard two shots and another three.


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The Shot That Missed
« Reply #64 on: January 08, 2021, 05:01:12 PM »
Thanks. Yes, I recall seeing that Williams' affidavit before but I forgot all about it.

Jarman's account is hard to muddle through. But he said he heard three shots. A third shot AFTER the head shot? And we have Harold Norman, standing right below the window, saying in a 12/4/63 deposition and in his testimony he heard three.

It's maddening to realize these men were standing/squatting right below the window and one heard two shots and another three.

Don't worry about it. Those guys were working in joe-jobs because they couldn't count.

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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: The Shot That Missed
« Reply #65 on: January 08, 2021, 05:23:12 PM »
Thanks. Yes, I recall seeing that Williams' affidavit before but I forgot all about it.

Jarman's account is hard to muddle through. But he said he heard three shots. A third shot AFTER the head shot? And we have Harold Norman, standing right below the window, saying in a 12/4/63 deposition and in his testimony he heard three.

It's maddening to realize these men were standing/squatting right below the window and one heard two shots and another three.

Actually BRW, Jarman, and Normam are a  good study in what transpired with the witnesses. BRW gave his statement immediately after the assassination (two shots). Jarman gave his two days later 2nd shot the heafdhot) and Norman was four days later (three shots). BRW several days later adds an additional shot.

I assume, trying to determine where the third shot took place is where  most of us start to look to find the answer to the JFK assassination. A simple reading of witness statements from locations all aver Dealey Plaze leads nowhere. Making JFK's car the center and working out from there a pattern emerges of two shot witnesses and their subsequent additons of  third shot later that in  lot of instances does not fit the narrative of three shots. Primarily the eyewitnesses are two shots and the earwitnesses are three shots.

Garland Slack indicates the first shot camee with the rifle retracted inside the building.
Garland Slack is an earwitness who references two shots based on the sound of the bullets impacting JFK. He also refernces the sound of the first shot sounded to him as if it had come from eithin the bulding.

VOLUNTARY STATEMENT. Not Under Arrest Form No. 86
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
COUNTY OF DALLAS, TEXAS
Before me, the undersigned authority, on this the 22nd day of November A.D. 1963 personally appeared Garland Glenwill Slack, Address: 4130 Deely [sp?] St., Dallas, Age 59, Phone No. EV 1 2950
Deposes and says:

Today, I was standing on Houston Street, just below the window to Sheriff Decker's office waiting for the parade. I was standing there when the President's car passed and just after they rounded the corner from Houston onto Elm Street, I heard a report and I knew at once it was a high-powered rifle shot. I am a [cross-out] big game hunter and am familiar with the sound of hi [sic] powered rifles and I knew when I heard the retort [sic] that the shot had hit something. Within a [cross-out] few seconds I heard another retort [sic] and knew it also had hit something and all I could see was the highly colored hat that Mrs. Kennedy had on. I couldn't see anything else. I was so sick that I went back to my office but after thinking it over, I came back as a citizen to offer my statement if it could help in any way. During the time I was standing there I did look up into the building where the Texas Book Depository is and saw some people, maybe 12 or 14, hanging out of windows, but I didn't see anyone with a gun.

When the sound of this shot came, it sounded to me like this shot came from away back or from within a building. I have heard this same sort of sound when a shot has come from within a cave, as I have been on many big game hunts.

/s/ G. G. Slack

The witness statements are a wealth of information they are truly the only ones who knew what took place. It should also be understood the media had a large ompact on how their statements changed over time. Pat Speer's website is a great source of information about the witnesses and he should be greatly appreciated for what he has

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The Shot That Missed
« Reply #66 on: January 08, 2021, 07:43:11 PM »
Don't worry about it. Those guys were working in joe-jobs because they couldn't count.

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Elitist remark and probably racist as well.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The Shot That Missed
« Reply #67 on: January 08, 2021, 10:09:29 PM »
Elitist remark and probably racist as well.

So according to you I'm a racist, an elitist, a parrot, a clown, a lemming, a sheep (short back & sides, please) and child-molester
At least I don't take a knee to the little prick who killed Tippit and probably shot Kennedy.

 ;)
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Re: The Shot That Missed
« Reply #68 on: January 08, 2021, 10:18:38 PM »
It's maddening to realize these men were standing/squatting right below the window and one heard two shots and another three.
It would not be as surprising if the last two shots were close together because the sound would have reverberated in that building.  This would be particularly so on the 5th and 6th floors that had no partitions.  The reverberations may have made those last two shots less distinct and left an initial impression overall of two loud discharges.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The Shot That Missed
« Reply #69 on: January 08, 2021, 11:23:40 PM »
So according to you I'm a racist, an elitist, a parrot, a clown, a lemming, a sheep (short back & sides, please) and child-molester
At least I don't take a knee to the little prick who killed Tippit and probably shot Kennedy.

Why should I base my actions on what you claim (without evidence) that somebody did?  Add "inflated self-importance" to your list.