Did Ruby really kill Oswald?

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Did Ruby really kill Oswald?
« Reply #77 on: January 04, 2021, 05:42:28 PM »
This response is something I would expect from the tinfoil brigade.
I've made two serious points about the destruction of evidence and the complex of lies and deceit that permeates the testimonies of many of the TSBD employees.
You like to bang on about how all the evidence points to Oswald (who was a snivelling creep and most definitely involved) but when I point out key evidence has been destroyed you go into denial. Just like a good CTer.
You also can't deal with the point about the TSBD employees so you go into denial about that too.
It must be weird to be in the position you so often ascribe to others (and rightly so)
Be careful, I don't think you'd look good in metallic headgear.

Tell us who 'destroyed' the soda bottle with the 'key' evidence

And what makes you think I'm a Cter

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Did Ruby really kill Oswald?
« Reply #78 on: January 04, 2021, 09:58:35 PM »
Says the guy who sticks up for Charlie Manson.
Who's next? Richard Kuklinski?

I didn’t “stick up” for Charlie Manson. You can’t get anything right.

Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Did Ruby really kill Oswald?
« Reply #79 on: January 05, 2021, 09:58:07 AM »
Tell us who 'destroyed' the soda bottle with the 'key' evidence

And what makes you think I'm a Cter

I'm assuming it was Lieutenant J C Day:

Mr. McCLOY. On the crime scene, that is, on the sixth floor, did you notice any chicken bones or chicken remnants of a chicken sandwich or lunch or the whereabouts, if you did see them?
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir; there was a sack of some chicken bones and a bottle brought into the identification bureau. I think I still have that sack and bottle down there. The chicken bones, I finally threw them away that laid around there. In my talking to the men who were working on that floor, November 25, they stated, one of them stated, he had eaten lunch over there.
Mr. McCLOY. Someone other than Oswald?
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir; so I discarded it, or disconnected it with being with Oswald. Incidentally, Oswald's fingerprints were not on the bottle. I checked that.
Mr. McCLOY. They were not on the bottle?
Mr. DAY. No, sir.


At the time of his WC testimony Day is saying he still has the lunch sack and soda bottle. The bottle was  never offered up as evidence because it didn't have Oswald's fingerprints on it (it had somebody's fingerprints but it seems Day never bothered to actually find out whose fingerprints). This is the last we hear of the soda bottle.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Did Ruby really kill Oswald?
« Reply #80 on: January 05, 2021, 11:56:39 AM »
I'm assuming it was Lieutenant J C Day:

Mr. McCLOY. On the crime scene, that is, on the sixth floor, did you notice any chicken bones or chicken remnants of a chicken sandwich or lunch or the whereabouts, if you did see them?
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir; there was a sack of some chicken bones and a bottle brought into the identification bureau. I think I still have that sack and bottle down there. The chicken bones, I finally threw them away that laid around there. In my talking to the men who were working on that floor, November 25, they stated, one of them stated, he had eaten lunch over there.
Mr. McCLOY. Someone other than Oswald?
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir; so I discarded it, or disconnected it with being with Oswald. Incidentally, Oswald's fingerprints were not on the bottle. I checked that.
Mr. McCLOY. They were not on the bottle?
Mr. DAY. No, sir.


At the time of his WC testimony Day is saying he still has the lunch sack and soda bottle. The bottle was  never offered up as evidence because it didn't have Oswald's fingerprints on it (it had somebody's fingerprints but it seems Day never bothered to actually find out whose fingerprints). This is the last we hear of the soda bottle.

So how does that qualify as 'destroyed' evidence? And you still need to point out where I qualify as a CTer.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2021, 01:21:26 AM by Bill Chapman »

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Did Ruby really kill Oswald?
« Reply #81 on: January 05, 2021, 06:48:37 PM »
Are the bottle and bag still available for examination?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Did Ruby really kill Oswald?
« Reply #82 on: January 07, 2021, 03:39:42 AM »
I agree, perhaps reading glasses with clear lenses.
These?.......
 


Online Charles Collins

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Re: Did Ruby really kill Oswald?
« Reply #83 on: January 07, 2021, 03:55:06 AM »
These?.......
 


They appear to be similar. However in that photo it would appear that he was near sighted and needed glasses for distance viewing. Reading or distance, either way the point that I was making is that I was agreeing that they had clear lenses versus dark sunglasses lenses. Reading glasses would be more common for middle aged people, so that was my first guess.