The Bus Stop Farce

[Bill Brown]

A dark coat.

Means nothing.

Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis both saw the exact same man cut across their front yard seconds after hearing the shots.  Barbara said the jacket/coat was dark.  Virginia said it was light tan.

So what?

[Martin Weidmann]

No.  Your point above is entirely invalid.

The five bullets in Oswald's pants pocket (removed hours after his arrest) were all Winchester-Westerns.

Richard Smith is correctly referring to the six live rounds removed from the revolver that was taken from Oswald.  Three of these live bullets were Winchester-Westerns and three were Remington-Peters.

As Richard correctly points out, Tippit was gunned down by both Winchester-Western and Remington-Peters bullets, which happened to be the same two manufacturers of bullets found inside his revolver when he was arrested.

Richard Smith is correctly referring to the six live rounds removed from the revolver that was taken from Oswald.

And what revolver would that be? I know you refer to the revolver now in evidence as CE 143, but what evidence do you have that this is the same revolver taken from Oswald at the Texas Theater?

[Martin Weidmann]

Yes, definitely not from the couch.

So, you agree that Roberts was most likely near the television set rather than sitting on the couch during the time that Oswald was in the room?

[Jerry Freeman]

Means nothing.

Yeah...to the Oswald did it guys I wouldn't expect it to.
 However, if the ladies had claimed that it was a light grey or whitish jacket they saw then that would become absolutely positive evidence huh? The likelihood that Oswald never even put a jacket on in the first place is becoming more probable. Who said that he put this jacket on in the first place? One distracted lady with admittedly poor vision.
When one witness' story points to a conspiracy.. they are summarily dismissed as wrong. Yet when one witness [no matter how convoluted their story] points to the single killer...their statements are heralded as the gospel truth.

[Charles Collins]

Yes, definitely not from the couch.

How far into the room (away from the windows) do you loose sight of the bus stop? I know that that would depend on where along the front wall one is. So lets specify along a perpendicular line to the front wall at that runs to the back of the end of the couch seat closest to the front wall. I believe that the angle to the right edge of the window nearest the TV from that spot is very close to the angle to the bus stop. Also, do we know the bus stop was at the same exact location in 1963 as it is now?

[Martin Weidmann]

How far into the room (away from the windows) do you loose sight of the bus stop? I know that that would depend on where along the front wall one is. So lets specify along a perpendicular line to the front wall at that runs to the back of the end of the couch seat closest to the front wall. I believe that the angle to the right edge of the window nearest the TV from that spot is very close to the angle to the bus stop. Also, do we know the bus stop was at the same exact location in 1963 as it is now?

This is so typical for you. You clearly have never been to the rooming house yourself, yet you "believe" that Roberts was sitting on the couch when Oswald walked out. Why do you believe that? The answer is simple; so you can argue that she would have had a good look at Oswald as he walked out. You now have two people, who have actually been there, telling you that she couldn't have seen the bus stop from the couch, yet instead of accepting that, you are still desperately looking for a way to keep Roberts on the couch anyway. This happens all the time with you. You prefer what you believe over factual information time after time.

Well, let me tell you this; if you are now looking for a way to place Roberts on the couch seat closest to the front wall, so that she could somehow see the bus stop, the consequence is that you put Roberts on the couch at a location where Oswald would have passed behind her on his way to the front door.

You really need to think things through in the future.....

[Charles Collins]

This is so typical for you. You clearly have never been to the rooming house yourself, yet you "believe" that Roberts was sitting on the couch when Oswald walked out. Why do you believe that? The answer is simple; so you can argue that she would have had a good look at Oswald as he walked out. You now have two people, who have actually been there, telling you that she couldn't have seen the bus stop from the couch, yet instead of accepting that, you are still desperately looking for a way to keep Roberts on the couch anyway. This happens all the time with you. You prefer what you believe over factual information time after time.

Well, let me tell you this; if you are now looking for a way to place Roberts on the couch seat closest to the front wall, so that she could somehow see the bus stop, the consequence is that you put Roberts on the couch at a location where Oswald would have passed behind her on his way to the front door.

You really need to think things through in the future.....

I asked a freaking question and you attack me. Typical nonsense (ignore it).