The Bus Stop Farce

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The Bus Stop Farce
« Reply #693 on: December 20, 2020, 01:45:41 PM »
Of course he will never admit he is wrong, because he has a book to sell and a reputation to protect.

Every conspiracy-monger author has a book to sell and a need to be taken seriously.

Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #694 on: December 20, 2020, 02:36:49 PM »
Where did you get that idea? Bowles clearly states that his zero-base time was arbitrary. He says nothing about when the shots occurred with regard to the accuracy of the clocks, and the shots (at least in his opinion) are not audible on the recording.

There are a lot of things that LN-ers claim “general consensus” on that are not demonstrable.

Bowles clearly states that his zero-base time was arbitrary

Quite the contrary:

From chapter one of Bowles’ report:

By noting the stated times and the duration of messages in the minutes preceding the incident of the open microphone, I have, for practical purposes, fixed the time for the start of the five-minute open mike episode at 12:29:10 p.m. (Channel 1 time).  Time statements broadcast later confirm this as a rational assumption. (See PART II, CHAPTER FIVE for technical details demonstrating this confirmation.)
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5. For an accurate, although derived, time reference point, 12:29:10 (Channel 1), the time the mike stuck open, will be developed and used in this text


Definition of derived from the dictionary:

Obtain something from a specified source; (As used in mathematics):
obtain (a function or equation) from another by a sequence of logical steps, for example by differentiation


Definition of arbitrary from the dictionary:

based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system


You can read the technical details in his report. I have provided his information as to where you can find them. I read them and understand that it is based on an officer witnessing the front of the motorcade passing under the triple underpass immediately after the shooting.

Is it the exact time? No

It is reasonably accurate for practical purposes.

And it is definitely not arbitrary. You are simply wrong. And just like you claim Dale Myers to be, you will not admit it......

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The Bus Stop Farce
« Reply #695 on: December 20, 2020, 05:30:53 PM »
Let me catch you up, Slick: No guilty Oswald would parade around in a jacket he was seen wearing
@Tippit.

Thanks again for your meaningless conjecture.

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Proof: He ditched it.

Circular argument (n.): see Circular argument

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I acknowledged my unforced error

You didn’t acknowledge squat. The only thing you’ve proven is how careless and incompetent you are.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: The Bus Stop Farce
« Reply #696 on: December 20, 2020, 05:42:06 PM »
You'll have to point out specific posts, since I see utterly no dishonesty on my part.

He said, rather dishonestly.

Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #697 on: December 20, 2020, 05:46:11 PM »
And it is definitely not arbitrary. You are simply wrong.

I’m not going argue the dictionary with you. Here’s another definition from Merriam-Webster:

“based on or determined by individual preference or convenience rather than by necessity or the intrinsic nature of something”

Rather than wasting time quibbling over word definitions, do you agree that Bowles states that he picked his “zero-base” timestamp for “practical purposes” and that no absolute record of time exists?

Bowles:

“1. No exact record of "time" exists;
2. The several clocks were not synchronized;
3. The radio operators were not exact with regard to "time statements" on either radio;
4. The recordings were continuous only on Channel 1, and only while the mike was stuck open;“

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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #698 on: December 20, 2020, 05:56:10 PM »
I’m not going argue the dictionary with you. Here’s another definition from Merriam-Webster:

“based on or determined by individual preference or convenience rather than by necessity or the intrinsic nature of something”

Rather than wasting time quibbling over word definitions, do you agree that Bowles states that he picked his “zero-base” timestamp for “practical purposes” and that no absolute record of time exists?

Bowles:

“1. No exact record of "time" exists;
2. The several clocks were not synchronized;
3. The radio operators were not exact with regard to "time statements" on either radio;
4. The recordings were continuous only on Channel 1, and only while the mike was stuck open;“

Where did you get that idea? Bowles clearly states that his zero-base time was arbitrary. He says nothing about when the shots occurred with regard to the accuracy of the clocks, and the shots (at least in his opinion) are not audible on the recording.

There are a lot of things that LN-ers claim “general consensus” on that are not demonstrable.


 Bowles clearly states that his zero-base time was arbitrary.



Does he?    ???

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: The Bus Stop Farce
« Reply #699 on: December 20, 2020, 06:15:38 PM »


 Bowles clearly states that his zero-base time was arbitrary.



Does he?    ???

Arguing ad nauseam over petty details of a matter that has nothing to do with the Tippit murder radio transcripts, you want to do, but when given an opportunity to debate and verify the validity and probative value of the transcripts, in relation to the Tippit murder, compared to what the witnesses said, you run to mommy.....

So much for only being interested in the truth.