The Bus Stop Farce

[John Iacoletti]

Regardless, if the fibers come from Oswald's shirt - even if you don't think it was he one he wore that morning - it still links him to the rifle.

It's not possible to link the fibers to any specific shirt.

But the shirt fibers are just a cherry on top of Oswald's sundae of guilt.

No, they are yet another example of Nutter special-pleading.

  He left his rifle at the murder scene.

Unproven.

  He lied about owing the rifle and offered no explanation for it to have been found in the TSBD.

Unproven.

  He fled the scene.

Unproven.

  Murdered a cop within an hour.

Unproven.

That cooks his goose a thousand times over without the fibers.  All the other evidence against him just confirms the obvious.

Anyone can make a series of allegations.  Like Donald Trump and his "voter fraud".  That doesn't constitute "evidence" that the allegations are true.

[Martin Weidmann]

Bledsoe indicated that the shirt Oswald was wearing on the bus just after the assassination had the hole in it and the bus transfer was found in the pocket of that shirt.  So the arrest shirt is most likely the same one that he had on that morning.  Regardless, if the fibers come from Oswald's shirt - even if you don't think it was he one he wore that morning - it still links him to the rifle.  In that scenario, they just got on his rifle at some earlier time.  The importance is that - like all evidence in this case - it points to Oswald.  But the shirt fibers are just a cherry on top of Oswald's sundae of guilt.  He left his rifle at the murder scene.  He lied about owing the rifle and offered no explanation for it to have been found in the TSBD.  He fled the scene.  Murdered a cop within an hour. That cooks his goose a thousand times over without the fibers.  All the other evidence against him just confirms the obvious.

Bledsoe indicated that the shirt Oswald was wearing on the bus just after the assassination had the hole in it and the bus transfer was found in the pocket of that shirt.  So the arrest shirt is most likely the same one that he had on that morning.

Trust you to jump to the wrong conclusion based on speculation rather than an examination of the evidence.

Photo's of Oswald's arrest shirt, taken on Friday, prior to the shirt being sent to the FBI, do not show a hole. Bledsoe did not indicate that the shirt Oswald was wearing on the bus was the arrest shirt. She recognized the shirt from when the FBI brought it to her house and showed it to her, prior to her testimony. As for the bus transfer, that wasn't (allegedly) found in the pocket of Oswald's arrest shirt until hours after the arrest, just like the extra bullets were. The problem with that is that Oswald was already searched when he was arrested. It's standard operating procedure! So why were those items not found at that time?

Regardless, if the fibers come from Oswald's shirt - even if you don't think it was he one he wore that morning - it still links him to the rifle.

So what? The Klein's transaction and the BY photos also linked him to the rifle. That doesn't mean he fired it, if the rifle was fired at all on 11/22/63.

In that scenario, they just got on his rifle at some earlier time.  The importance is that - like all evidence in this case - it points to Oswald.  But the shirt fibers are just a cherry on top of Oswald's sundae of guilt.  He left his rifle at the murder scene.

Wrong again. A rifle that can be linked to Oswald (in some highly dubious ways) was left at the TSBD. You have no evidence whatsoever, except of course your usual assumptions and speculations, that Oswald brought it into the building or that it was him who left it there. Appearances can be, and often are, deceiving. Yet you keep falling for them all the time.

He lied about owing the rifle and offered no explanation for it to have been found in the TSBD

Assumes "facts" not in evidence. All the reports of the interrogators show is that, at best, he was only asked if he owned a rifle. He wasn't shown the MC rifle, nor the revolver, and they never asked him if he left a rifle at the TSBD, and thus never gave him an opportunity to explain how the MC rifle could have ended up at the TSBD

He fled the scene. 

A mere assumption and thus a misrepresentation of the available evidence. If you flee a scene of a crime, you do not offer your taxi to an old lady, nor do you go walking in a residential area.

Murdered a cop within an hour.

Another highly questionable assumption. I am well aware that you never let evidence get in the way of your opinions, but you really need to stop jumping to conclusions that are not supported by the evidence.

That cooks his goose a thousand times over without the fibers.  All the other evidence against him just confirms the obvious.


Nope, all your rhetoric shows is that you are obviously biased beyond help, unable to look at the evidence honestly and unwilling to even consider or discuss anything that does not match your predetermined opinion.

[Bill Chapman]

Where do you lot get the idea that the tear/hole was in the left sleeve?

Mrs. BLEDSOE - Hole in his sleeve right here [indicating].
Mr. BALL - Which is the elbow of the sleeve? That is, you pointed to
the elbow?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Well, it is.
Mr. BALL - And that would be which elbow, right or left elbow?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Right.



The hole might have increased size during the TT fisticuffs

[Martin Weidmann]

Where do you lot get the idea that the tear/hole was in the left sleeve?

Mrs. BLEDSOE - Hole in his sleeve right here [indicating].
Mr. BALL - Which is the elbow of the sleeve? That is, you pointed to
the elbow?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Well, it is.
Mr. BALL - And that would be which elbow, right or left elbow?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Right.



The hole might have increased size during the TT fisticuffs

Where do you lot get the idea that the tear/hole was in the left sleeve?

Where did you get the idea that "you lot" (whoever they are) got the idea that the hole was in the left sleeve?

The hole might have increased size during the TT fisticuffs

The photo was taken after the arrest at the TT, so, where is the hole?

[Bill Chapman]

you lot
A way to address a group of people. Primarily heard in UK. A British friend of mine says that to her young kids all the time, a kind of 'round up' for dinner, bedtime etc

I read Bledsoe's description below, found the picture and now find that the hole has now mysteriously transformed into a thumb. My bad: May a thousand camels f*rt in my general direction.

Mrs. BLEDSOE - Hole in his sleeve right here [indicating].
Mr. BALL - Which is the elbow of the sleeve? That is, you pointed to
the elbow?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Well, it is.
Mr. BALL - And that would be which elbow, right or left elbow?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Right.

[Martin Weidmann]

Mrs. BLEDSOE - Hole in his sleeve right here [indicating].
Mr. BALL - Which is the elbow of the sleeve? That is, you pointed to
the elbow?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Well, it is.
Mr. BALL - And that would be which elbow, right or left elbow?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - Right.

Nobody disputes that Bledsoe saw a hole on the right sleeve, but that was not before she was shown the shirt at her home. In her affidavit she says nothing about the hole or the shirt.

The photo you have posted was taken between Oswald's arrest on Friday afternoon and the transport of evidence to the FBI around midnight that same day. So, where in the photo can the hole be seen?

[Bill Chapman]

Nobody disputes that Bledsoe saw a hole on the right sleeve, but that was not before she was shown the shirt at her home. In her affidavit she says nothing about the hole or the shirt.

The photo you have posted was taken between Oswald's arrest on Friday afternoon and the transport of evidence to the FBI around midnight that same day. So, where in the photo can the hole be seen?

AFFIDAVIT IN ANY FACT
THE STATE OF TEXAS

COUNTY OF DALLAS

BEFORE ME, Patsy Collins, a Notary Public in and for said County, State of Texas, on this day personally appeared Mrs. Mary E. Bledsoe, w/f 67, 621 N. Marsalis, Dallas, Texas, Telephone WH2-1985 who, after being by me duly sworn, on oath deposes and says:

Last Friday, November 22, 1963, I went downtown to see the President. I stood on Main Street just across the street from Titche's until the parade passed by. The I walked over to Elm Street and caught a bus to go home. The bus traveled West on Elm Street to about Murphy Street and made a stop and that is when I saw Lee Oswald get on the bus. The traffic was heavy and it took quite sometime [sic] to travel two or three blocks. During that time someone made the statement that the President had been shot and while the bus was stopped due to the heavy traffic, Oswald got off the bus and I didn't see him again. I know this man was Lee Oswald because he lived in my home from October 7, 1963 to October 14, 1963.

/s/ Mrs. Mary E. Bledsoe
SUBSCRIBED AND SWORN BEFORE ME THIS 23rd DAY OF November A.D. 1963
/s/ Patsy Collins
Notary Public, Dallas County, Texas

I can't find anything in her statement that indicates to me that she was attempting to get into more detail. Its a statement ffs, not full testimony

Are you suggesting she had a reason to lie?