The Bus Stop Farce

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The Bus Stop Farce
« Reply #259 on: December 03, 2020, 06:41:07 AM »
Have it your way. I don't mind. I have understood for a long time that I can't fix stupid or ignorant.

I fixed mine
Feel free to disagree  :D

Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #260 on: December 03, 2020, 07:30:19 AM »
Are you sure that's a verbatim quote and not just something the reporter wrote. Having been inside the rooming house myself, I am convinced there is no way that Roberts could have seen Oswald standing at the bus stop, as that was near the traffic lights at the right side of the building.

Nonsense.

From the living room window, one can easily see the bus stop.  I've been in the house, too; multiple times, in fact.

(The bench depicts the location of the bus stop)
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: The Bus Stop Farce
« Reply #261 on: December 03, 2020, 10:45:40 AM »
Nonsense.

From the living room window, one can easily see the bus stop.  I've been in the house, too; multiple times, in fact.

(The bench depicts the location of the bus stop)


From the living room window, where the television was, you can indeed see the bus stop. But Charles Collins argued that Earlene Roberts was sitting on the couch as Oswald left the house. He, in fact, quoted a newspaper article;


Here’s what is written in the 11/28/63 [Dallas Morning News] story about this aspect:

“Mrs. Roberts noticed Oswald stand, momentarily at a bus stop on North Beckley after he left the house. She could see him there, through the front window, as she watched TV from the oval couch in the front room.
But Oswald didn’t wait long. He bolted to his left and hurried south, on Beckley - the last time Mrs. Roberts saw him until his image appeared on the TV screen an hour later.”

That's what I responded to, because from where the couch is, you can not see the bus stop.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The Bus Stop Farce
« Reply #262 on: December 03, 2020, 03:08:38 PM »
Not a fantasy that Oswald was the only person on the planet placed at both scenes during the firing sequences.

Was he?

In Tippit's case, only if the witnesses were right. The problem is that he probably couldn't have been there when the shooting happened, which, if true, means the witnesses were wrong.

'he probably couldn't have been there'
>>> He probably ran part way
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Bus Stop Farce
« Reply #263 on: December 03, 2020, 04:09:06 PM »
You really need to google "circular logic" before you make a fool of yourself again.


Student "A" says that 5 apples and one orange equal 6 apples.   95% of the class agree with student "A" ....

Does that prove that student A is correct?


Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #264 on: December 03, 2020, 05:07:35 PM »

Student "A" says that 5 apples and one orange equal 6 apples.   95% of the class agree with student "A" ....

Does that prove that student A is correct?


“It is often pointed out by critics that 70% of Americans believe there was a conspiracy to assassinate President Kennedy, as if the percentage itself is enough to change the reality of what really happened. Six hundred years ago, the vast majority of humanity believed the world was flat. That still didn’t change the reality of a spherical world. We know that many Americans base their opinion of the Kennedy assassination on a mixture of fact and fantasy derived from a variety of often suspect sources of information. While opinion polls can reveal cultural trends, they don’t change facts. In the final analysis, the truth doesn’t require anyone’s belief.”     —-Dale K. Myers

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: The Bus Stop Farce
« Reply #265 on: December 03, 2020, 06:08:18 PM »

“It is often pointed out by critics that 70% of Americans believe there was a conspiracy to assassinate President Kennedy, as if the percentage itself is enough to change the reality of what really happened. Six hundred years ago, the vast majority of humanity believed the world was flat. That still didn’t change the reality of a spherical world. We know that many Americans base their opinion of the Kennedy assassination on a mixture of fact and fantasy derived from a variety of often suspect sources of information. While opinion polls can reveal cultural trends, they don’t change facts. In the final analysis, the truth doesn’t require anyone’s belief.”     —-Dale K. Myers

Silly quote

What exactly happened, happened. Period.

However whether somebody believes Oswald was the lone gunman or whether there was a conspiracy will always be an opinion. Just like calling the WC narrative factual is an opinion. That's why the quote is silly.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2020, 06:30:44 PM by Martin Weidmann »